Elon Musk is leading a group of investors in a $97.4 billion dollar bid to buy OpenAI’s assets. WSJ reporter Berber Jin tells host Julie Chang what that could mean for the ChatGPT-maker as it looks to transform to a for-profit company, and why it puts pressure on its CEO Sam Altman. Plus, the U.S. Department of Defense’s former chief digital and AI officer talks about what DeepSeek and DOGE could mean for the future of war.

Correction: Craig Martell is Chief AI Officer at Cohesity. An earlier version of this podcast incorrectly said he is CTO at Cohesity. (Corrected on February 13) 

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