Gr4vy CEO John Lunn is joined by payments veteran and former Google executive Steve Klebe to explore the fierce competition—and future—of digital wallets. From adoption trends to merchant pain points and integration best practices, this episode breaks down what’s powering (and stalling) wallet growth today. Tune in for a behind-the-scenes look at Apple Pay, Google Pay, Click to Pay, PayPal, and where it’s all heading next.

Gr4vy CEO John Lunn is joined by payments strategist Dwayne Gefferie to break down the most talked-about trends in payments right now. From the rise of new payment methods and global infrastructure shifts to the growing role of orchestration, this episode explores what’s shaping the future of commerce—and what merchants need to do to keep up.