Behind The Design

Every project has a moment when the pricing comes back and the room goes quiet. Matt Lane, CEO of Unita, has spent his career in that moment. Unita is a national fit-out and construction business that has delivered more than 5,000 projects over two decades for brands including Supernormal, Sephora and Uniqlo, and Matt treats the money conversation as part of the design process.

Camilla and Matt go back to where it started, after school in his parents' building supply store in Grafton, then into construction management and a stint on the client side that changed how he works as a builder. They unpack what value engineering really means once you're in the room, where to start when a project comes back over budget, and how Unita protects the hero elements by finding savings in the places customers never see. Matt walks through a GP clinic that priced at almost double the client's budget, the alternative sink that became a go-to spec, and the concrete bar at Hamsi at the new Sydney Fish Market that couldn't physically be poured.

It's a conversation about being honest early, protecting what matters most, and making sure everyone leaves the job wanting to work together again.

In this episode:

• How growing up in a country hardware store and sitting on the client side shaped the way Matt works as a builder

• What value engineering actually means, and the difference between smart solutions and cutting the guts out of a job

• Where to start when a project comes back over budget, and why function and durability come before finishes

• Keeping the design intent on a GP clinic that priced at almost double, and why a little extra time finds a better solution than the cheapest option

• Why trades are subject matter experts, and why you should never throw the architect under the bus

• Workshopping the micro cement bar at Hamsi at the new Sydney Fish Market, and how systems keep five teams in four states consistent

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Photography
Hamsi: Sam van Dyke, Kosk Photography
Place Wooloongabba: Scott Burrows Photography

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00:00 Intro
01:02 Welcome to Behind the Design
01:37 When the pricing comes back and the room goes quiet
02:36 Growing up in a Grafton building supply store
03:19 What the client side taught him
04:20 Choosing uni over the family business
04:59 Construction management and learning on the job
05:47 His first job: a bar for hospitality training
06:21 How he came to Unita
07:26 What value engineering actually means
10:56 When a project comes back over budget
12:25 A GP clinic priced at almost double
15:50 A word from Unfolded
16:06 The sink that became a spec
17:50 Earning a designer's trust
18:30 How many options is too many?
19:04 What trades see in a set of drawings
21:17 The line he won't cross
21:48 Never throw the architect under the bus
23:07 When something goes wrong on site
25:39 The concrete bar at the new Sydney Fish Market
26:58 What workshopping a problem looks like
28:27 Does Unita ever say no?
29:30 Systems and processes across four states
30:37 Staying technical as CEO
31:30 Three questions in three minutes
33:43 What people should understand about what goes on behind the design
34:13 Wrap up

interior design
residential interiors
creative business
design consultancy
Behind the Design podcast
Camilla Ingall
Matt Lane
Unita
value engineering
commercial fit-out
hospitality fit-out
office fit-out
construction budgets
design intent
builder and designer collaboration
working with trades
Sydney Fish Market
Hamsi
Place Wooloongabba
national construction business

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Two years ago, Andrew George sat in this chair known as the Passive House guy. Now he's back, and he's not so sure he ever was. In this return conversation, the owner of Lou Projects looks back on the hardest stretch of his career: a run of complex projects, rushed contracts, countless variations, supply issues and long-distance jobs that left his business running on fumes, all while building a new shed, workshop and office and welcoming his son, Enzo.

Camilla and Andrew talk about what it took to rebuild. Andrew shares how he turned dozens of spreadsheets into his own pre-construction platform, why he cut his subcontractor checklist from 50 items down to 10 or 15 quality questions, and why bringing 3D modelling in-house saves time and money. He also explains why he's let go of the Passive House label, how he talks to clients about budget, and why he believes most builders aren't charging enough because they don't understand the cost of running their business.

It's a conversation about taking responsibility, slowing down pre-construction to speed up construction, and the kind of resilience that comes from quietly rebuilding one system at a time.

In this episode:

• What growing the team to around a dozen people really costs

• Why rushed contracts and unasked questions lead to variations, and the simple process to avoid this

• Turning dozens of spreadsheets into a pre-construction platform

• The difference between being thorough and being useful

• Why he no longer wants to be "the Passive House guy"

• Why builders aren't charging enough, how overheads explain the gap between quotes, and why he'd like to mentor other builders

• How Andrew uses AI in his business to save time and money

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00:00 Builders aren't charging enough
01:27 Welcome back to Behind the Design
02:07 Engaged, a baby, a new home and a hard-fought business
03:15 What growth actually cost
05:36 Custom homes roaring in, and Lou Homes on hold
06:24 The hardest stretch: rushed contracts and variations
09:50 A series of chaos, and the moment things had to change
11:49 Taking responsibility and weekly team meetings
14:01 A word from Unfolded
14:28 Pulling back to the Central Coast
16:04 Who you bring into a project
16:52 Building his own pre-construction platform
19:41 RFIs and the discover, develop, deliver stages
21:30 Thorough vs useful: cutting the checklist down
23:14 Bringing 3D modelling in-house
25:28 No longer "the Passive House guy"
28:28 Passive House windows and long lead times
29:14 Talking budget and Passive House principles with clients
30:19 Status symbol, or health and durability?
31:43 Why builders aren't charging enough
33:28 What would surprise him from two years ago: resilience
35:17 Demystifying overheads and mentoring builders
37:57 Three questions in three minutes
40:02 Wrap up

interior design
residential interiors
creative business
design consultancy
Behind the Design podcast
Camilla Ingall
Andrew George
Lou Projects
Central Coast builder
custom home builder
pre-construction
building variations
scope of works
builder overheads
quoting a build
3D modelling for builders
Passive House
Passive House principles
heat recovery ventilation
resilience in business

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Chloe Matters co-founded Tom Mark Henry, one of Sydney's most recognised design studios, and then walked away from it. Pregnant and working hours that left no room for family, she stepped back to work out what kind of mother, designer and business owner she actually wanted to be. That reset became Matters and Made, a studio known for calm, tonal, deeply tactile homes.

In this episode, Camilla and Chloe get honest about what happened next. Chloe relaunched the studio during Covid with a one-year-old and a six-month-old, grew it far too fast without the systems to hold it, then made the call to downsize the team so she could stop feeding the machine and get back to the work she loves. She shares how her behavioural studies background shapes the way she reads clients, why she tailors her process to every one of them, and how a divorce and a rental she couldn't renovate led to her newest venture, Slow Matters.

It's a conversation about reinvention, saying no, and the quiet power of a home that genuinely supports you.

In this episode:

• How saying yes to every client after returning from Europe turned into co-founding Tom Mark Henry

• What a creative partnership teaches you, and why it only works when everyone stays in their lane

• Why her behavioural studies degree has been more useful than her design degree for reading what clients really need

• Growing too fast during Covid, missing time with her kids, and why she chose to trim the business back

• The rental, the lamps on timers and the small changes that sparked Slow Matters, plus how the home wellness check and 21-day reset work

• The hard questions Chloe asks herself before saying yes, and what's ahead for Matters and Made

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00:00 Intro
02:25 Welcome to Behind the Design
03:34 Co-founding Tom Mark Henry
04:21 What a design partnership teaches you
05:12 Why hospitality design builds a name fast
07:13 Pregnancy and the decision to leave
08:23 Behavioural studies and hearing what clients really need
09:59 Ten Pinterest styles and trend-led clients
10:59 Concrete pots on the balcony
11:57 Defining a calm, tonal aesthetic
13:37 Going solo: one vision, not a shared one
14:22 A word from Unfolded
14:52 Relaunching during Covid and growing too fast
15:47 Systems, structure and what she'd change
16:11 Downsizing to stop feeding the beast
17:53 Two babies, divorce and learning to prioritise herself
19:25 What the studio looks like day to day now
20:36 Four-year projects and earning client trust
21:51 Adapting the process for every client
22:51 The rental that sparked Slow Matters
25:44 Naming the problem: the home wellness check
27:02 Why your home deserves the same attention as your body
28:16 The 21-day reset, three minutes a day
31:20 Turning something personal into a product
32:45 Where the name Slow Matters came from
33:14 Trust your gut: the questions to ask yourself
34:48 What's next for Matters and Made and Slow Matters
35:25 Three questions in three minutes
36:11 Wrap up

interior design
residential interiors
creative business
design consultancy
Behind the Design podcast
Camilla Ingall
Chloe Matters
Matters and Made
Tom Mark Henry
Slow Matters
Sydney interior designers
home wellness
designing a calm home
rental styling
business partnerships
working mothers in business
reinvention after divorce

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Twenty years ago, Sonia Warner and Jacinta Woods started Woods & Warner with two people, no plan B and a shared goal of creating beautiful spaces. Today they lead a seven-person Sydney studio, and most of what they know about running it was learned the hard way.

In this episode, Camilla sits down with both directors for an honest look at what it really takes to build a design studio that lasts. They share the seven-bedroom project they designed without charging a cent, only to have it cancelled in a ten-minute meeting. They talk about IVF, bed rest and the mother guilt of building a business with three children under five, and how those years shaped a studio culture that genuinely supports motherhood. And they relive the morning their Hunters Hill project landed the front cover of Belle, just as their website and Instagram were hacked.

It's a conversation about knowing the value of your design intellect, hiring properly, reading your clients and finding joy in the work for the long haul.

In this episode:

• Why they ignored a mentor's advice to stick to one style and five suppliers, and what that choice has cost and given them

• The unpaid seven-bedroom job that taught them to charge for their time and put contracts first

• How IVF, bed rest and early motherhood forced them to build a business that could run without them

• Reading clients: telling the difference between a budget problem and a fear problem

• The year they broke down in tears over the wrong team, and why paid trial days are now non-negotiable

• Using AI to cut hours of admin, collaborating with architects and builders, and how they define success after 20 years

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00:00 The job that changed everything
01:00 Welcome to Behind the Design
02:50 20 years of Woods & Warner
03:51 IVF, bed rest and being forced to step back
06:10 Mother guilt and a studio that supports motherhood
08:27 Structure, chaos and a week in the studio
09:24 Two directors, two lanes
11:57 Settling creative disagreements
13:01 The advice they ignored: one style, five suppliers
15:21 No signature look: connection as the signature
17:02 A word from Unfolded
17:39 Budget problem or fear problem?
21:23 The year they broke down in tears
24:34 Hiring for passion
27:12 Using AI to cut the admin
30:07 Hire like a corporate: paid trial days
32:28 The seven-bedroom job they never got paid for
38:50 Contracts, staff and the 50% nobody sees
40:43 Working with architects and builders
45:37 A Belle cover and a hacked website
48:45 The next 20 years
49:56 Success, gratitude and taking the plunge

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residential interiors
creative business
design consultancy
Behind the Design podcast
Camilla Ingall
Woods and Warner
Sonia Warner
Jacinta Woods
Sydney interior designers
charging for design fees
hiring in a design studio
working mothers in business
Belle magazine

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What happens when a designer spends years pursuing the practical path before finally trusting his creative instincts?

Stefan Vignogna of Bespoke Joinery Design built his career around bespoke kitchens, considered interiors and technical expertise. In this episode of Behind the Design, he joins Camilla Ingall to share the personal and professional decisions that shaped his journey, from studying law to building a design business on his own terms.

They explore why Stefan chooses to stay small, what eight years on the workshop floor taught him, and why great joinery involves far more than beautiful finishes.

In this episode:

• Why Stefan walked away from law to pursue design
• Stefan’s journey in coming out and what happened when he finally did
• What years of hands-on joinery experience taught him that formal education couldn't
• How he built a referral-based business without chasing growth
• The underrated power of setting boundaries with his work
• Why the details behind great joinery matter more than most people realise
• How he's making specialist design knowledge more accessible

It's an honest conversation about finding your creative direction, building a business around your values, and deciding what success actually looks like.

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Chapters
00:00 Why Stefan Vignogna Chose Interior Design Over Law

02:15 Growing Up Creative and Discovering a Passion for Design

03:46 Why Stefan Studied Law Instead of Following His Creativity

06:20 From Office Furniture to a Career in Interior Design

08:25 Embracing His Identity and Finding Creative Confidence

11:03 How Life Experience Shaped Stefan’s Design Philosophy

12:47 What Eight Years of Hands-On Joinery Experience Taught Him

14:45 Building a Referral-Based Interior Design Business

15:48 Why Stefan Chooses Quality Over Business Growth

19:39 Why Interior Designers Do More Than Design

22:27 What Makes Bespoke Joinery More Than Just Cabinetry

23:42 Making Kitchen Design More Accessible to Homeowners

27:49 Building a More Profitable and Sustainable Design Business

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Bowerbird Interior’s success isn’t just a story about beautiful design. It’s a story about what happens when the business behind the design keeps getting bigger.

Lauren Lewis, co-founder of Bowerbird Interior, joins Camilla to explore the side of the design industry we rarely see: the people, systems, logistics and commercial decisions behind the finished spaces.

What started as a property styling business has grown into a much bigger operation spanning residential homes, commercial spaces, build-to-rent and large-scale furnishing projects. But what happens behind the scenes when a creative business reaches that kind of scale?

Lauren shares what she has learned about building the infrastructure behind the creativity, working alongside her husband Jeff, finding the right people, and knowing when the founder needs to step back and let others take the lead.

In this episode:

• How Bowerbird evolved from property styling into a much larger furnishing operation

• The systems, logistics and procurement required to operate at scale

• Why creative instinct alone may not be enough to grow a sustainable business

• How commercial thinking can influence creative decision-making

• How Lauren and Jeff built complementary roles around their different strengths

• What separates people who want something to happen from those who make it happen

• Why delegation becomes harder, but more important, as a business grows

• Knowing when to step away from the details and focus on higher-value work

• What can sit behind the success people see from the outside

There’s often a lot more behind a finished space than meets the eye. For Lauren, growing Bowerbird has meant navigating the tension between creativity, people, systems and the realities of running a much bigger business.

But as a creative business grows, one question becomes harder to ignore: how do you scale the business without scaling away what made it special in the first place?

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Chapters

00:00 - From Property Styling to Bowerbird

02:15 - The Story Behind Bowerbird’s Growth

05:40 - What Happens Behind Beautiful Spaces

09:25 - Scaling a Creative Business

13:10 - The Systems Behind Property Styling

17:05 - Procurement, Warehousing and Logistics

21:30 - Why Creative Businesses Need Commercial Thinking

25:45 - Building a Business Around Different Strengths

30:10 - Lauren and Jeff’s Roles at Bowerbird

34:20 - Building the Right Team and Culture

38:15 - What Makes a Great Team Member?

42:05 - Knowing When to Delegate

46:00 - Letting Go as Your Business Grows

49:40 - The Reality Behind Business Success

53:15 - Relationships and Community in Design

56:30 - What Lauren Would Do Differently

59:10 - The Future of Bowerbird and Creative Business Growth

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What do two successful designers admit when there is no guest to interview and the questions are coming straight back at them?

Sarah Reid is the host of Her Design Her Story, and in this special episode of Behind the Design, Camilla Ingall and Sarah Reid turn the questions on each other, reflecting on the careers, shows, businesses and lessons that have shaped where they are today.

As the conversation unfolds, they revisit the moments that challenged their confidence, changed their direction and made them rethink what they actually wanted from their careers. They also share what they have learned from years of working with clients, building businesses and having conversations with people across the design industry.

Both have taken different paths through the design industry, but there are surprising parallels in what they've learned along the way.

In this episode:

• How two very different career paths led into interior design and creative business

• Why confidence often comes from taking action rather than waiting to feel ready

• The reality of running a creative business while trying to maintain a life outside of work

• What burnout revealed about boundaries, people-pleasing and choosing the right clients

• Learning when to say no and recognising when something simply isn't the right fit

• The challenge of letting go, delegating and trusting other people

• Why building a business can teach you as much about yourself as it does about business

• What podcasting has taught them about listening, communication and making people feel heard

At the heart of the conversation is a simple question: what happens when you stop trying to be everything to everyone and start paying attention to what actually works for you?

It's an honest conversation about the less visible side of design careers and creative businesses, and the lessons that only seem to come with experience.

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Chapters

00:00 Two Designers Turn the Mic on Each Other

02:28 Camilla’s Journey Into Interior Design

04:01 Sarah’s Journey From Architecture to Interiors

07:30 What Inspired Behind the Design

09:06 The Reality Behind the Pretty Pictures

10:00 When Your Career Takes an Unexpected Path

13:07 What Running a Business Teaches You

16:17 What Actually Brings You Joy?

17:25 Building a Business and Making Time for Family

19:14 Does Confidence Come Before Action?

21:15 What Really Happens Behind the Scenes

23:14 Learning When to Say No

24:40 When Doing Everything Becomes Too Much

33:06 Learning to Qualify Your Clients

34:29 Which Opportunities Are Worth Pursuing?

37:49 How Their Definition of Success Changed

42:38 What Podcasting Has Taught Them About People

46:57 What They Want Listeners to Take Away

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What happens when the business you're building almost ends before it really begins?

Phil and Lina Strati, the husband-and-wife team behind L.P StratiCo Builders and Aesthetic Developments, share the real story behind their journey from secure corporate and construction careers to building businesses of their own.

It wasn't a straight line. After quitting their jobs in the most unexpected way, they spent their early years taking on whatever work they could find, only to become caught in a builders worst nightmare, before their first project had barely started.

But the conversation goes well beyond business.

They talk openly about navigating fertility challenges, personal loss, the pressure behind a successful-looking business, and the shift from chasing growth to building something more intentional.

In this episode:

— Why they quit their jobs at the worst possible time

— The scam that nearly ended their business

— How one difficult project led to six thriving opportunities

— The unexpected path into insurance and remediation

— How they competed with 9 figure builders as a small company

— Balancing stable, commercial work with creative development

— Building a business as a couple

— How grief changed Lina’s definition of success

A conversation about resilience, partnership and what really happens behind a successful building business.

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Chapters

00:00 - The Risky Decision That Started Their Business

02:47 - From Corporate Careers to Construction and Design

06:19 - Why They Quit Their Jobs on Their Honeymoon

12:42 - The Granny Flat Scam That Nearly Ended Their Business

16:07 - Discovering the Construction Scam and Starting Over

20:55 - How One Difficult Project Led to Six More Opportunities

21:47 - How COVID Changed Their Construction Business

23:37 - Finding Sustainable Revenue Through Insurance Work

24:28 - Becoming One of 12 Builders on a Major Insurance Panel

25:21 - Finding a Niche in Complex Insurance Claims

30:33 - Returning to Luxury Property Development

31:44 - The Fairview Project and Their First Major Development

32:23 - Winning a Master Builders Award

33:37 - Building a Brand Through Design and Storytelling

35:04 - Grief, Mental Health, and Redefining Success

Keywords

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construction business growth

property development

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insurance remediation

business setbacks

business resilience

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What actually makes a home luxurious? According to luxury builder James from Jakin Luxury Living, it has far less to do with expensive finishes and far more to do with how a home performs, feels and supports the way you live.

In this episode of Behind the Design, I sit down with James, founder of Jakin Luxury Living, to unpack what really goes into building high-end residential homes and why the best projects are about so much more than beautiful finishes.

We explore how the definition of luxury is changing. From home automation and high-performance glazing to saunas, ice baths, gyms and dedicated wellness spaces, today's luxury homes are increasingly designed around health, comfort, technology and the way families actually live.

And beyond construction, James opens up about business growth, delegation, burnout and finding the balance between working in the business and working on it.

In this episode, we also discuss:

• What luxury really means beyond expensive finishes

• Why a luxury home needs to perform, not just look beautiful

• Why bigger isn't always better in business

• How builders and designers can collaborate more effectively

• Why communication can make or break a construction project

• The importance of choosing the right trades and site manager

• What to look for when comparing builders and building quotes

• The growing importance of insulation and glazing

• How James approaches forecasting, budgeting and project programming

• Managing burnout in the construction and creative industries

• Knowing when to delegate and stay in your lane

• Why the story behind a finished project can be more interesting than the polished result

If you're building, renovating or designing a luxury home, this conversation offers a behind-the-scenes look at the decisions, relationships and details that can ultimately determine whether a project simply looks impressive or genuinely feels exceptional.

Follow Behind the Design for more conversations with the people shaping the architecture, interior design, construction and creative industries.

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00:00 - What Really Makes a Luxury Home?

01:45 - Inside Luxury Home Building

03:15 - From Carpenter to Luxury Builder

04:33 - Why Bigger Isn't Always Better

13:06 - The Problem With Micromanaging

15:43 - Builder & Designer Collaboration

18:33 - Why Communication Makes or Breaks a Build

27:25 - What Does Luxury Really Mean?

30:51 - The Rise of Wellness Spaces at Home

33:48 - The Future of Luxury Home Design

35:07 - 3 Things to Look for in a Builder

38:26 - Why the Cheapest Quote Can Cost More

49:48 - Burnout in the Building & Creative Industries

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Lighting is often one of the last things considered in a project, but it can completely change how we experience a space, from the way materials and colours are perceived to how the room actually feels.

In this episode of Behind the Design, I sit down with Jay and CJ, founders of Objects for Thought, to explore the thinking, process and business decisions behind their contemporary lighting brand.

This is a conversation about much more than beautiful light fittings. Jay and CJ share how their very different backgrounds in design, art, finance and electrical work eventually led them to build a lighting company, and why they deliberately chose to focus on doing one thing exceptionally well.

We talk about why lighting can make or break an interior, what happens when beautiful finishes are paired with poor-quality lighting, and the technical details that designers and homeowners often don't see.

And most importantly, Jay and CJ share what they've learned about building a creative business without letting ego drive every decision.

In this episode:

• How Objects for Thought began and how Jay and CJ found their way into lighting• Why constructive criticism is central to their creative partnership

• How they divide the business across Melbourne and Brisbane

• Why good lighting is about more than aesthetics

• How lighting quality affects colour, materials and finishes

• What electricians and trades bring to the design process

• Why Objects for Thought deliberately says no to some custom work

• How direct relationships with designers create a valuable feedback loop

• Why solving problems well can strengthen long-term client relationships

• The importance of patience when building a product-based design business

For architects, interior designers, builders and anyone interested in how thoughtful design actually comes together, this episode offers a look behind the finished product and into the decisions that make it work.

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