In this episode, Ben Hayes speaks with Trav and Nick Noonan for a brutally honest and deeply personal chat. Together they unpack the recent success of several Lindsay Park runners, but the conversation quickly moves beyond racing. Ben opens up about the emotional toll the Victorian bushfires have taken on his family and their beloved property, offering a raw and heartfelt look at the resilience behind the stable’s public face. It’s a candid, grounded discussion that reminds you there are real people—and real struggles—behind the sport.

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