In this episode, Kelly and Jay recount an extraordinary night at the International Remote Viewing Association conference in Cloudcroft, New Mexico—one that began as a simple group experiment in spoon bending and ended with a display of unexplained aerial activity over the nearby White Sands Missile Range.

As dozens of participants focused their attention around a bonfire, cutlery softened and twisted in their hands—just as amber lights began moving across the desert sky in ways that defied conventional motion. The synchronicity between the two events raised unsettling questions about consciousness, matter, and the possible feedback loop between human intention and the phenomenon itself.

Kelly and Jay examine that night moment by moment, reflecting on its implications for remote viewing, psychokinesis, and the broader study of anomalous events. Along the way, they discuss:

The history of spoon bending and PK (psychokinesis) experiments, from Jack Houck’s “PK parties” to government research programs.

The atmosphere and experiments at the IRVA conference, including conversations with legendary remote viewers like Lyn Buchanan, Paul H. Smith, and Dale Graff

The simultaneous UAP activity observed near White Sands and its uncanny timing with the group’s collective experiment

How belief, skepticism, and shared attention can shape reality—and why documenting the anomalous is never just about evidence, but about participation.

This episode invites listeners to consider the possibility that consciousness is not a passive observer of the world—but an active participant in its unfolding.

Music for Cosmosis is by Michael Rubino. The show is brought to you by SpectreVision Radio.

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TIMESTAMPS

04:17 Post-IRVA Conference Reflections

06:00 Deep Dive into Remote Viewing

17:34 Spoon Bending Experience and Online Reactions

35:22 Reflecting on Subjective Realities

36:53 Experiencers and Intellectual Humility

38:29 The Private Nature of Extraordinary Moments

41:15 The Challenge of Filming Personal Experiences

52:45 Skepticism and UFO Phenomena

01:04:46 The Magic of Field Work

01:06:54 Upcoming Projects and Community Engagement

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