Charles Payne, host of Making Money on Fox Business, joined The Guy Benson Show today to break down the Trump administration's latest moves on tariffs--explaining why they appear to be more of a negotiation starting point than a final policy. Payne outlined Trump's three-pronged strategy for tariff outcomes and highlighted the often-overlooked "non-tariff barriers" that are being discussed behind the scenes as part of trade talks. He also weighed in on the public spat between Elon Musk and Peter Navarro, calling it a revealing snapshot of the broader debate over economic nationalism. Listen to the full interview below!

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