Trigger warning: This episode includes discussion of infertility, IVF, miscarriage, and pregnancy loss.

In this episode, we sit down with Mandy and Cassie Glessner, partners in life for nearly a decade, as they share their deeply personal journey through infertility, IVF, miscarriage, and the grief that comes with being unable to grow their family. With honesty and care, Mandy and Cassie walk us through the clinical realities, emotional toll, and quiet moments of hope and heartbreak that shaped their experience.

From navigating a system not built with same-sex couples in mind to redefining what a “happy ending” can look like, Mandy and Cassie remind us that community is built through listening, vulnerability, and showing up for one another, especially when there are no easy answers.

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