
Sign up to save your podcasts
Or


"I feel better under pressure when I feel that I'm prepared, that I'm good at what I'm doing, that if I'm giving a presentation in front of the NASA administrator, I'm prepared. I'm ready to go, I'm not playing games."
"I feel better under pressure when I feel that I'm prepared, that I'm good at what I'm doing, that if I'm giving a presentation in front of the NASA administrator, I'm prepared. I'm ready to go, I'm not playing games."
"What I'm hearing in this, Paula, is you've always had some way of switching off the day."
Try to track down Paula Fry, Global Head of Fixed Income and FX Trading Liquidity at Bloomberg LP, and she is as likely to be in New York, Singapore, Dubai or Paris as she is in her London office. A 30-year veteran of the financial sector (with a sabbatical running her own vintage fashion business along the way), Paula has built a deep skill in handling pressure. Case in point: her ability to switch off at the end of the day. In many of the conversations I have with clients, that is one of the hardest things for them to do. Paula shares two rituals that travel the world with her. "It's like taking a bit of home away with me," she says.
It makes sense. As I've said before, rituals, however small, are a way of staying in devotion to what matters to you, and harnessing your energy in a way that works for you, wherever you are in the world.
There's a lot more wisdom and advice in our conversation, including Paula’s passion for what I'd describe as her legacy: supporting women to talk openly about perimenopause and menopause in the workplace.
Legacy releases the pressure of uncertainty by grounding you in your personal purpose. It's a way to explore the next phase of impact, allowing leaders to expand, try new things, and unleash bold ideas. This shone out of Paula throughout our conversation and I was left feeling she has more to cause! I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.
Each month, Better Under Pressure explores how leaders really experience pressure, respond to it, and lead others through it, for positive impact.
Save, share, and follow me, Sara Milne Rowe, for more on leadership, performance and impact for good.
It's role reversal time at Better Under Pressure.
This month, leadership coach Nicky Brown puts me in the hot seat, asking me what I've learnt from my 60+ conversations with leaders around the world on the Better Under Pressure podcast, and from two decades of coaching at Coaching Impact.
This conversation gave me the time and the context to reflect on what I see and hear when I'm with leaders, and to explore how pressure shows up in our lives — the positives and the negatives, and what people do when they're deep in it.
Over 50 minutes, we got into:
Over the years, a lot of people have asked me for more of my take on it all, and Nicky gave me the chance, so thank you.
Each month, Better Under Pressure explores how leaders really experience pressure, respond to it, and lead others through it — for positive outcomes.
Outline 📍
01:45 Sarah steps into the hot seat
02:37 How would you describe pressure?
07:01 What does long-term pressure feel like?
10:46 How do you still perform under pressure?
11:43 The classroom moment that shaped Sara’s leadership
21:08 Spirit, discipline & self-belief under pressure
23:41 Insight 1: Lessons learned
26:15 How do you stop pressure becoming toxic?
29:43 How do you prepare for pressure before it arrives?
34:45 How do you turn pressure into fuel?
36:36 What practices help you become better under pressure?
44:51 What will pressure look like in the future of work?
47:30 How do leaders handle uncertainty?
49:00 Two things Sara would pass forward for performing under pressure
51:34 Why learning to shut down matters
52:54 AI, leadership & the future
54:20 Final reflections
55:15 Outro
Why slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.
"I love to work at pace. I talk at pace. I am all like go, go, go," says @Caroline Frankum, the former Global CEO of Kantar's Profiles division, "but sometimes you really need to slow down to go faster – and in times of pressure, slowing down the process is really important."
"Pressure is always going to be there. It is really about how you deal with it in a structured way," she adds, "and that sometimes means pausing – which is the thing I had to learn."
Caroline's approach to pressure has been shaped by personal experience (more on that in our conversation) and senior leadership roles at Kantar, Hall & Partners, the Mirror Group, ITV, UKTV, Disney and Sky.
"You have to find the thing that works for you to get your mind into a calmer state. Then you are in a place where you can make a confident decision. Until you get there, you will react rather than respond."
I loved talking to Caroline, she really is a powerhouse and there is a lot more to our conversation. Listen here.
Each month the Better Under Pressure podcast explores how leaders really experience pressure, respond to it and lead others through it for positive outcomes.
Please save, share and follow me, Sara Milne Rowe, for more on leadership, performance and impact for good.
"As long as my values system and my integrity are reconciled at the end of each day, I'm OK."
So says the extraordinary Dr Bijna Kotak Dasani MBE, investment banker, entrepreneur, investor and venture capitalist, in conversation with me on my Better Under Pressure podcast.
Bijna has appeared in many top 50 and top 100 lists, from the World's Top 100 Women Executives to Top 50 Women to Watch. In 2025, she was named Venture Capitalist of the Year in India. Yet she sees awards differently from most: "It is nice to be appreciated, but it is a bigger responsibility to honour that."
Throughout her career, Bijna has focused on her personal impact and what she can contribute to make a better world, and she does it her way: "I am very clear on who I am, what I represent, and what works for me and what doesn't."
For me, this conversation is about clarity, ownership, accountability, and how to achieve it. I hope you enjoy.
Follow Dr Bijna on:
- LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/bijna
- Insta: https://www.instagram.com/thedrbijna
- X: https://x.com/drbijna
Outline 📍
02:30 What pressure comes with growing recognition and a rising reputation?
24:00 How can women build allyship, shift the system, and claim their own agency?
34:15 Insight 2: Lessons learned
36:34 What's the worst pressure you've ever been under?
43:00 What 2 pieces of advice would you pass forward to people listening?
45:43 Outro
‘I’m at my best when the pressure is high. And I need to be prepared for it, I tend to approach it as a positive rather than a negative’, says my guest on this month’s Better Under Pressure podcast, Thomas Dubaere, CEO, AccorHotels Americas. Thomas’s approach to pressure has been honed over a 20-year career in the hospitality industry with Accor, working in multi-layered, highly networked stakeholder environments across multiple countries and cultures.
In this conversation, Thomas talks about his relationship with pressure: from why confidence plays such an important role, to how he distinguishes when pressure turns into stress, and how he works with his teams to plan for high-pressure meetings. I found this such a refreshingly open conversation and hope you do too!
Outline 📍
What a Purpose-led CEO Can Teach Us About Managing Pressure
This week’s Better Under Pressure conversation is with an inspirational leader who has been, at times, so immersed in her role that she felt she had merged with it. Does that sound familiar? That feeling when you become what you do… your identity slides into your role and before you know it, the boundary between you and the work has dissolved?
Clare Reddington, CEO of Watershed – the Bristol-based organisation focused on cultural cinema, talent development and creative technology – knows this feeling well.
In this episode we explore how purpose drives Clare’s leadership style and carries her through pressure, how she recognises her personal signs of overwhelm, and what she does about it (hint: nature plays a big role).
As regular listeners to Better Under Pressure know, I often draw connections between the principles found in sport and those that underpin leadership and performance coaching, identifying habits that are highly transferable to the business world and everyday life.
No surprise then that I loved this conversation with Dr. Ara Suppiah, Chief Medical Officer for LIV Golf (and keeping players like Dustin Johnson, Justin Rose and Anna Nordqvist on course) Known as “the elite athlete’s secret weapon”, this episode is packed with high-performance insights and tips that I hope you’ll find useful and can apply to your own life when pressure shows up!
Outline 📍
I love this episode because, in addition to discussing pressure, difficult deals, and making no money for two years, we also explore what happens when you decide to trust the universe and how to navigate moments of uncertainty.
I'm talking to Joti Balani, a remarkable leader who walked away from corporate success to build something extraordinary in the world of AI.
Alongside this, Joti speaks at global industry, academic, and social impact events, such as CES and Fintech Connect, and is a member of the Infrastructure Masons NYC Chapter, collaborating with Data Center Industry leaders to ensure AI is sustainable and carbon-neutral as it grows exponentially.
From the publisher's feed