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Tiffany sits down with Jordan Wright and Darren Petty to explore how you actually stay human while building something that’s never existed before. Recorded live at MoneyPot, this episode is pure kinetic energy as the trio discusses founders mid-build, mid-pivot, mid-life.
They swap scars and secrets from the other side of “scale”: how to make bets that look wrong until they’re not, how to sell through chaos when your own doubts are louder, and how to rebuild trust in business partners, in teams, in yourself.
Jordan shares how Atomic bet on a credential-free future before the world was ready and what it feels like when timing finally catches up to courage. Darren unpacks how Chisel turned long-term certainty into short, high-impact sprints that prove value fast and force focus. Together, they go deep on the invisible work of leadership: forgiveness, defiance, integrity, and the audacity to keep showing up when it would be easier to quit.
If you’ve ever wondered how founders build through fear and not past it — this one’s for you.
In this episode of Between Builds, Tiffany sits down with Nicole Casperson — journalist, founder of Fintech Is Femme, and author of Fintech Feminists to talk about what it really takes to carve your own lane in an industry that doesn’t always make room for new voices.
From newsroom shifts to building a media platform and writing her first book, Nicole shares how she’s navigated the in-betweens: the uncertain seasons, the quiet coffee moments with her partner Anton, and the internal dialogue that shapes both identity and ambition.
They unpack the lessons learned in balancing career pivots, creative freedom, and staying grounded while building something bigger than yourself. Along the way, Nicole reminds us that joy isn’t a byproduct of success — it’s the foundation for it.
☕ “Sometimes carving your own lane means letting go of the title — and holding tighter to your truth.”
Hi, I’m Tiffany Haynes, and today I’m joined by my dear friend Liang to introduce Between Builds. This podcast is about the messy middle — the stretches between milestones where reflection, growth, and change happen. In this trailer, I share what inspired the show and what I hope it becomes for anyone navigating their own transition.
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