Between Two Ellens*

Between Two Ellens*

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Between Two Ellens* episodes

  • "Denim Day" and why it's important (with Rep. Aletia Timmons)

    The Ellens* visit with their colleague, Representative Aletia Timmons (HD97), about her previous career as a judge and about the issue of sexual harassment & assault in the workplace. Denim Day is an annual day to promote awareness of sexual assault and solidarity with victims. It was founded in Italy in the 1990s around a rape case where the verdict was overturned in favor of the accused due to the victim wearing tight jeans; and therefore, the idea of consent was put to question.

    24 min
  • From the Classroom to the Capitol (with Rep. Trish Ranson)

    The Ellens* visit with Rep. Trish Ranson, a former elementary music teacher turned Oklahoma representative and current caucus chair, as she shares how the 2018 teacher walkout sparked her run for office and how her focus has expanded from education into health, mental health, childcare, and higher ed. She discusses HB 1979, a proposed early childhood task force aimed at consolidating 19 programs across six agencies into a single, navigable system to reduce duplication and improve outcomes, including stronger connections to programs like SoonerStart. Ranson also explains what the caucus chair role entails, highlights her “People, Politics and Pints” civics nights, and reflects on a hectic session where budget limits bills and GA bills are out of sync, making the process difficult for lawmakers and nearly impossible for the public.

    30 min
  • Budget preview

    Last week the Republican leadership announced a budget deal...but the exact details remain a bit murky and quite a bit uncertain. The Ellens* take a quick walk through what we know—and what we don't—thus far in the process.

    Budget portal: https://former.okhouse.gov/fiscal/FiscalPortal.aspx

    14 min
  • Late Night Legislative Drama

    Since the legislature is roughly halfway through the legislative session, the Ellens* reflect on what happened this week - what's dead, what's still alive, and what kind of shenanigans are happening late at night while the public isn't looking.

    21 min
  • Oklahoma's childcare crisis (with Rep. Suzanne Schrieber)

    The Ellens* speak with Rep. Suzanne Schreiber about Oklahoma’s childcare challenges, emphasizing childcare as essential economic infrastructure that enables parents to work. Schreiber outlines costs ($700–$1,200 per month), staffing shortages driven by low wages (about $11.47/hour), and how “childcare deserts” are largely staffing—not building—problems. She discusses last year’s Strong Start First law to help recruit and retain childcare workers by covering their own childcare, and warns that a proposed $50 million cut could remove 35% of supported families and accelerate closures, noting over 300 providers closed from June to December 2025 (about 6,000 slots). The conversation covers federal match dollars, employer partnerships, regulation limits, and ends with everyone sharing favorite country music picks.

    33 min
  • Black History Month, Public Service, and Fighting for Community (with Nikki Nice)

    The Ellens* visit with State Senator and former Oklahoma City Councilwoman Nikki Nice about how she moved from radio and civic engagement into elected office, including her work as a DNC delegate in 2016 and her decisive 2018 city council victory. She explains why she ran for the Senate to overcome state preemptions that limit local solutions, and compares city council’s public-hearing-driven process to the state legislature’s lack of routine public comment, noting how that separation affects policy. Nice reflects on challenges she faced in public service, highlights key wins like reinstating the Human Rights Commission, preserving Black cultural landmarks, and improving healthy food access in 73111, and discusses learning the fast pace and breadth of state issues. The conversation closes with Black History Month reflections, plus personal stories of mentorship and advocacy.

    37 min

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Between Two Ellens* is a podcast hosted by Oklahoma state representatives Ellyn Hefner and Ellen Pogemiller. Together, they dive into pressing state issues through both a legislative and community…