In this episode, MSNBC’s Jen Psaki sits down with former CNN primetime anchor turned independent journalist, Don Lemon. Don talks about the new perspective he has gained from ditching the formality of a studio and becoming a leaner, meaner media machine. And they touch on how Democrats have been slower to catch up to the evolving media ecosystem.  Don believes the Democratic party, despite their ‘big tent’ legacy, are shooting themselves in the foot by having some outdated purity tests that only isolate them further from voters they need to win over.

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