beyond ArtLess

beyond ArtLess

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  • Russel Mikkelson

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    Commuters who have been with us since the beginning have grown to appreciate the “homespun” nature of the podcast.  Well, maybe not appreciate, but gently tolerate?  Phil learns the value of restarting his laptop and pays the price by offering very little for the first half of the episode (shut out).  We learn about Ferryville, Wisconsin and surrounding suburbs. Who knew that a dairy farmers kid could go on to great success as a trumpet player, teacher, band director and currently Director of Bands at the Ohio State University. 

    Dr. Mikkelson shares with us about the value of great teaching and performing to students of all ages and ability levels.  Dave Mueller (former band director at Eleva-Strum) gets multiple shout-outs and so does Kickapoo, Wisconsin.  Free throw shooting, anyone?  We have time to appreciate Russ’ favorite morning beverage, sports teams and moments with former student Erika Svanoe.  Listen on and let this inspire your February commute!

    https://music.osu.edu/people/mikkelson.1

    https://education.musicforall.org/clinician/dr-russel-c-mikkelson/

    https://heiseywindensemble.org/Conductors.php

    https://www.ngsymphony.org/music-director

    https://www.uwec.edu/news/news/nine-to-receive-uw-eau-claire-alumni-association-awards-5116/

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    1 hr 3 min
  • Mike George

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    Mike George is a legendary figure in the arts education community in Wisconsin and beyond. His leadership has impacted thousands of people over his highly successful career. What an honor to spend an hour with Mike as he shares his childhood experiences and passion for music, discussing his teaching career, involvement in polka bands, and fine arts administration. Emphasizing relationship-building and mentoring, he highlights the importance of creating a culture of sharing. He discusses establishing the Wisconsin Center for Music Education and the Comprehensive Musicianship Project. Reflecting on influential figures, he underscores the transformative power of music, collaboration, and leadership in the field of music education. And yes....we also listen to Paul Budde's new Packer song.

    Chapters
    00:00 Introduction and Stole of Excellence
    03:33 Discussion about Paul Budde
    04:19 Phil's Honor Band Experience
    05:11 Siren, Wisconsin and Other Music Programs
    08:07 WWPPD: What Would You Do If You Woke Up Six Years Old?
    09:02 Reflections on Childhood and Wasted Time
    11:20 Introduction of Mike George
    12:12 Mike George's Childhood and Passion for Music
    14:24 First Teaching Jobs and Changes in Teaching
    20:32 Involvement in Polka Bands
    21:52 Administrative Career and Establishing the Wisconsin Center for Music Education
    27:39 Importance of Philanthropy and Mentoring Young Teachers
    34:37 Mike George's Work in Fine Arts Administration
    41:12 Importance of Building Relationships in Teaching
    41:34 Facilitating Groups and Creating Visions
    42:03 Encouraging Participation in Group Settings
    44:10 Creating a Culture of Sharing
    45:26 Teaching and Mentoring Nonprofits
    49:15 The Impact of the Arts
    52:43 Remembering Influential Figures
    57:37 Speed Round

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    Thanks Cookie Monster for the audio:
    Sesame Street: Cookie Monster Sings C is for Cookie

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    1 hr 5 min
  • Buddy Deshler

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    This man is Non-Stop! The podcast continues this week by exploring the stories and journey of an extraordinary individual in the world of arts and music - Buddy Deshler. A former Dallas Brass musician, Professor at Furman University, and all-around crazy trumpeter. We dive into Buddy’s early experiences with music, his time with the Dallas Brass, his non-profit “Brass Institutes of America”, and some of those memorable experiences one has when they have toured the world as a performing musician (both good and bad). How can someone so young have so many high profile plates spinning as an educator, performer, and entrepreneur at the same time? Because he is NON-STOP!

    Learn More About Buddy!

    • https://www.furman.edu/people/buddy-deshler/
    • https://www.brass-usa.com/buddydeshler
    • Artists - Buddy Deshler

    Show Clips:

    • Jack Black & Will Ferrell sing "Get Off the Stage" Oscars Acceptance Speech PSA
    • Overture 'Egmont', op.84, Georg Solti; CSO - Beethoven
    • Dallas Brass II - "My Spirit Be Joyful" - Bach.  Get It Here!


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    1 hr 4 min
  • Mark Davison

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    On this week's show is a man with many skills - from writing drills to building decks; Mark Davison can do it all. He is a gentle giant whose passion continues to nurture all those who get the privilege of working with him. In our conversation, Mark talks about his experience as a private instructor and band director. He shares his experiences with the Essential Ellington Jazz Festival, his approach to teaching private lessons, and the importance of tailoring lessons to fit each student's needs. The conversation goes well until we get off track, envisioning a future Beyond The Notes booth at Midwest and attacking gongs by using t-shirt cannons. Everything you would expect from this quality podcast. 

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    1 hr 2 min
  • Tim Gleason

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    There is a great quote that states, “Older siblings: the only people who will pick on you for their own entertainment and beat up anyone else who tries.” This week’s guest is none other than Chris’s big brother, Tim Gleason. Our discussion explores Tim’s amazing teaching and coaching career, mentors, and great books. Learn more than you want to know about growing up in the Gleason household, poor youth decision making, professional wrestling moves, and tips on how to improve this podcast.

    Ernie Reck Polka Band Feature on WEAU Channel 13

    Register for Chris's VanderCook Class "Beyond Measure: Ungrading Your Classroom" here:
    https://www.vandercook.edu/course/beyond-measure-ungrading-your-music-classroom-sp24/

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    59 min
  • Jacquie Dawson

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    Beyond Artless has gone International! Peter brings Dr. Jacqueline Dawson, Director of Bands at the University of Manitoba, on for our international debut. Of course, Jacquie is respectful, patient, vulnerable, honest, trustworthy, genuine, we-not-me, and all other things Canadian…which is exactly what Peter, Phil, and Chris are not. Despite the best efforts of the hosts, Jacquie shares great insight on inclusion in the music room, building community through music, and commissioning Canadian and Indigenous composers. And of course, there is a lot of conversation about hockey and the great Canadian accent!

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    1 hr 2 min
  • Turning The Tables with Claire, Mariah, & Maddie

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    This week we turn the tables on the hosts and they become the guests! Phil, Chris, and Peter will have to answer questions from Dr. Haberman’s students and…daughter! A role reversal that brings out the amazing talent and insight from Chris and Phil, and leaves a bit to be desired from Peter. Learn about the amazing Dr. Ostrander and his ability to perform at a world-class level as both a classical and jazz musician, find out about the nationally acclaimed educator Chris Gleason and his ability to not only have creativity and vision, but then the tenacity to follow-through has led him to new heights as an educator. Then there is the unconventional Dr. Haberman and the lack of enthusiasm the students have about learning any more about him or his musical journey.

    Join us as we celebrate our talented hosts and what mentorship they can provide to the world, beyond their bad sense of humor and low-quality podcast!

    Recordings Referenced:

    • You're a Mean One Mr. Grinch, Original Version - 1966 (HD)
    • “Thunder & Blazes” Fucik - Screamers: Circus Marches Eastmen Wind Ensemble, Frederick Fennell conductor
    • The Brisk Young Sailor - Lincolnshire Posy, Eastman Wind Ensemble - Donal Hunsberger conductor
    • Flute Partita in A Minor - Bach - Tuba Tracks - Gene Pokorny
    • Family Feud Sound Effects & Theme
    • Sesame Street Letter Of The Day E

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    56 min
  • Paul Budde

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    This week’s guest aligns perfectly with the conclusion of the 77th Midwest Clinic held in Chicago. Our guest is the amazing educator, tubist, father, leader, human, friend, and fish catcher, Dr. Paul Budde. His Midwest presentation with co-presenter Erin Holmes (Season 1, Episode 10), called “Why Teach, Why Now”,  inspires music educators to reconnect with their why. This talk is just one example of Paul’s infectious positive mindset. His enthusiasm and dedication to inspire the next generation of music educators is legendary (as are his fishing stories!). Commuter….you are in for a treat!

    Dr. Paul Budde & Erin Holmes Why Teach, Why Now Midwest 2023 Session Description & Handout

    Gary Cartoon

    US Marine Band Change Of Command

    Build In Music - The Storm  https://smarturl.it/Secession_Epoch by Composer: Greg Dombrowski


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    52 min
  • Ward Miller

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    Today we have the honor of learning from the renowned Dr. Ward Miller, a musical luminary whose influence reaches far beyond the podium. He shares insights into the profound impact of his mentor, Myron Welch, on his music journey. Commuters will gain valuable perspectives on the importance of mentorship and why Dr. Miller has never been to Idaho! The conversation often takes a humorous turn, especially when Haberman’s students interrupt the podcast, and everyone shares honor band horror stories. We delve into the heart of music with Dr. Miller as he shares what makes great music truly different and great. And the importance of vision, identity, and leadership as a director for our programs.

     Now if we could only get Phil to ask a good question…


    Show Links:
    Developing Error Detection Skills in the Wind Band Educator
    Catheryn Foster & Ward Miller -
    GIA Publications

    Ward Miller Website

    Audio Clips:
    Crowdsource Choir Sings Metallica's "Enter Sandman"
    Yoda

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    1 hr 4 min
  • Adam & Kate Hardt

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    In an effort to improve the quality of this podcast we have not one but two amazing guests with us this week. Adam and Kate Hardt are an amazing music education couple. Our conversation with them covers their busy lives as parents and music educators, mentors Fred Sturm and Mallory Thompson, jazz improvisation tips, reflections of amazing students, upcoming challenges, the importance of the arts, and more! 

    Join us for what promises to be the best show we put out this week!

    Show Links:

    Fred Sturm
    Mallory Thompson

    Music References:
    Ben Lapidus Wins Over the Judges Despite Getting 4 X's | The Parmesan Cheese Song | AGT 2022

    Back To The Future (From "Back To The Future" Original Score/End Credits) · The Outatime Orchestra

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    55 min

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