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Perhaps the name of the podcast should be changed to “folks smarter than Chris, Phil and Peter.”  Dr. Jamal Rossi has been Dean of the Eastman School of Music for the last decade and has worked as an administrator at some of the country’s finest schools of music.  Trained as a classical saxophonist, Dr. Rossi quickly transitioned into administration and visionary leadership in his 20s.  Chris, Peter and Phil still hadn’t bought a suit at that point in their careers.  Jamal patiently explains to our hosts what true excellence in teaching and leadership means.  Chris eloquently takes notes on a post-it.

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Learn more about Jamal here:
https://www.esm.rochester.edu/directory/rossi-jamal/

https://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/friendly-neighborhood-spider-dean/

1. NEW - Rising Music Educator Project (RMEP) - Deadline to Apply Feb 28

Are you ready to take your music education journey to the next level? The Rising Music Educator Program (RMEP) is your chance to grow, learn, and connect in ways that will inspire and transform your teaching career. Designed to combat the challenges young music educators face, RMEP invites up to 50 collegiate music education majors and early-career music educators (within their first five years of teaching) in the band area to join an exclusive day of growth and discovery at no cost to the participant. The event takes place on Friday, May 23, 2025 at the Kalahari Resort in Wisconsin Dells.  REGISTER and LEARN MORE HERE

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This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!

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Melody Synder

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This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!

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Jessica Meyer

Go Big Or Go Home - U.S. Marine Band at Midwest

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Beyond Artless has gone international! This week, we are expanding our horizons with Nacho Piqueras from Oros Travel & Culture. A friend of Peter’s and a music enthusiast, Nacho enjoys connecting people from different cultures through musical and travel experiences that create win-win opportunities for everyone involved. Our conversation covers a wide range of topics: travel, music, sociology, leadership, humility, running, and, of course, soccer. Nacho’s intentional, passion-driven, and balanced life exemplifies what dwarfs anything the hosts provide. It’s not every week that Peter performs well as a host on this podcast, but this is one of his strong weeks!

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Learn more about:
Oros Travel & Tours

NEW - Rising Music Educator Project (RMEP)

Are you ready to take your music education journey to the next level? The Rising Music Educator Program (RMEP) is your chance to grow, learn, and connect in ways that will inspire and transform your teaching career. Designed to combat the challenges young music educators face, RMEP invites up to 50 collegiate music education majors and early-career music educators (within their first five years of teaching) in the band area to join an exclusive day of growth and discovery at no cost to the participant. The event takes place on Friday, May 23, 2025 at the Kalahari Resort in Wisconsin Dells.  REGISTER and LEARN MORE HERE

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What does this week's guest have that this podcast will never have? A GRAMMY! That's right, this week's guest is the 2024 GRAMMY Music Educator of the Year, Annie Ray. Annie currently serves as both the Orchestra Director and Performing Arts Department Chair at Annandale High School (AHS) in the Fairfax County Public School (FCPS) system. Annie is an advocate for providing universal access to quality music education and is known for founding and developing creative opportunities to make music accessible to students of all demographics. Despite our very best efforts to sidetrack her into pointless banter, Annie raises the level of the interview with inspiring stories and brilliant ideas. At one point Phil made this statement, "This show was Sigma."  I guess that says it all. 

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Show Notes:
Learn more about:
Annie Ray - NPR
Annie Ray TEDxTalk
Annie Ray School Video (Created by her students)
Virginia teacher honored at the Grammys (WUSA9 Report)

Recording Credits:
Recital / SSG Irving Ray (The U.S. Army Band "Pershing's Own"); Annie Ray, harp

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This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!

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Learn more about:
Kyle Smith Growing Band Director Podcast
Noah VanderLoop
Conrad Nickelson
Mike Collins-Dowden
Daniel Freeman
Mary Cogswell
Dan Joosten
Tim & Christine Baumann
JaRod Hall


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This episode has it all.  If all you care about is plastic footwear.  Crocs seem to dominate this week’s episode with our guest - 29 year veteran teacher Jason Gillette.  Jason is the band director at Marquette University High School and is an extraordinary sax player.  Yet another guest is an alumnus of the Disneyland All American College Band.  Thankfully, Chris and Jason agree to disagree about their favorite football teams.  One of our first guests to ace every part of the speed round!

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Show Notes:
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Jason Gillette & The Showtime Big Band

Recording Credits:
La La Land 2017 - Sebastian explains Jazz to Mia
Featuring Bijon Watson - trumpet
https://youtu.be/eKz5Hida8n4?si=9LqEExkn8YZpXMDt

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What better way to start 2025 than with our guest, UW-Madison Associate Director of Bands, Dr. Corey Pompey. Corey shares his journey that has led him to the frigid tundra of Madison, Wisconsin taking the helm of the Badger Marching Band after the storied career of Mike Leckrone. Phil admits to sleeping in Hockey Arenas, Peter admits to stealing Chris’ guest, and Chris admits that the show is better if he speaks less frequently.

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Corey Pompey
Corey on Badger Talks
Legacy of the UW Madison Marching Band Video

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This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!

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Louise Smith Here

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This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies!

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Show Notes:
Learn more about:
Sun Prairie Bands

Recording Credits
"Careless Whisper" is a song by English singer-songwriter George Michael
Who Played It Better: Careless Whisper (Chicken, Guitar, Saxophone, Recorder, Harp Guitar). https://youtu.be/kN5R4vSnRiY?si=qrdcrZyZ_QU6SJP_

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