Phoenix and Flame Podcast

Beyond Forgive and Forget: The Real Secret to Letting Go


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In this episode of Phoenix and Flame, host Dana Skaggs sits down with three-time bestselling author and forgiveness coach Katharine Giovanni to talk about the idea of forgiveness—we're told to do it, but rarely taught how. Katharine explains that forgiveness isn't about excusing someone's behavior or even reconciling with them; it's a tool for your own healing. She shares a practical, step-by-step method for releasing the emotional charge from painful memories so you can stop letting people live "rent-free" in your head. Along the way, she highlights the connection between forgiveness and boundaries, showing that letting go of anger doesn't mean letting someone back into your life.

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Phoenix and Flame PodcastBy Dana Skaggs: psychotherapist and keynote speaker

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