This podcast episode focuses on the crucial question of whether experiencing struggle is an essential component of effective leadership. Kyle and Kerry discuss how both personal and professional challenges can serve as transformative experiences, shaping leaders who are more resilient, empathetic, and insightful. They engage with the idea that overcoming adversity helps leaders gain new perspectives, making them better equipped to handle future challenges. The importance of organizations supporting their members through difficult times is highlighted as vital to fostering a culture of honest and progressive leadership, where lessons learned are openly shared, and growth is continuous.