In this raw and honest conversation, Kyle and Kerry unpack why so many of us feel lost, overwhelmed, or disconnected even while “checking all the boxes.” They dive into the versions of ourselves people see, why some think we’re kind and others think we’re a jerk, and how boundaries, burnout, and life experience shape who we become.

Anchored around Mother Teresa’s quote, “If you want to change the world, go home and love your family,” this episode explores how our culture pushes performance, titles, and image while neglecting character, kindness, and the quiet work inside the four walls of our home. Kyle and Kerry talk through identity drift, the pull of social media, resentment, overcommitment, and the exhaustion of trying to be excellent at everything.

Most importantly, they walk listeners through how to reclaim identity, redefine success, rebuild capacity, and return to what truly fulfills us: presence, intentional relationships, family, compassion, and a life that feels like your own not one the world told you to chase.

A powerful, grounding episode that invites listeners to slow down, take inventory, and start living on purpose again.

In this episode of the HC Leadership Podcast, Kyle and Kerry dive deep into what it really means to be reliable and dependable as a leader not just in moments that matter, but in the everyday, ordinary tasks that build trust and credibility.

They unpack the difference between reliability and dependability, explore why predictability in leadership creates stability amid chaos, and share how authentic leaders align their words with their actions. From being the teammate others can count on to learning when to say “no,” this conversation challenges listeners to reflect on how consistently they show up at work, at home, and in life.

Plus, they share exciting updates about podcasting live from the upcoming TEEX Leadership Symposium and what’s ahead for the HC Leadership community.

Key themes:

• Reliability as leadership in the mundane
• Authenticity and accountability
• Saying “no” as a sign of strength
• Building predictable, trusted teams
• How small daily actions shape organizational culture

In this candid and relatable episode of the HC Leadership Podcast, Kyle and Kerry dive into the everyday struggle of bad mornings and how to turn them around before they derail your entire day. From spilled coffee and sleepless nights to workplace frustrations and emotional triggers, they explore how awareness, perspective, and small wins can reset your mindset and refocus your purpose.

Kerry shares practical routines that keep her grounded—from morning exercise and magnesium to sunlight and grace—while Kyle opens up about how music, awareness, and micro-wins help him realign when the day starts sideways. Together, they emphasize how you show up, even on the hard days.

Whether you’re in the firehouse, the boardroom, or just trying to make it through your morning routine, this episode is a reminder that a bad start doesn’t have to mean a bad day.

In this episode of the HC Leadership Podcast, Kyle and Kerry dive into one of leadership’s toughest balancing acts, knowing when empathy stops helping and starts hurting. Building on last week’s discussion on culture and accountability, they unpack how good intentions can quietly erode standards and create “toxic empathy.”

The hosts explore questions every leader faces:

• When does empathy cross the line into enabling?
• How can leaders show compassion without lowering expectations?
• Why does avoiding discomfort actually breed dysfunction?

From the firehouse to the boardroom, Kyle and Kerry share candid reflections on guilt, accountability, and courageous empathy, truth spoken with care. They challenge leaders to stop mistaking comfort for care and start leading with conviction, authenticity, and consistency.

Key takeaway: Empathy is a tool, not a strategy. Use it to guide your perspective, not your decision-making.

In this episode, hosts Kyle and Kerry embark on an insightful discussion about the pivotal role of leadership in shaping workplace culture. They emphasize that culture is not merely dictated by top-level slogans or mission statements but is defined by the consistent behaviors modeled by leaders. They explore how culture is integral to the success of teams, sharing personal anecdotes that highlight the transformative power of effective leadership. Identifying culture as a top-down phenomenon, the hosts stress the importance of shared values and the leader’s vision in creating an environment that fosters collaboration and purpose.

In this episode of the HC Leadership Podcast, Kyle and Kerry dive deep into the often overlooked leadership skill of discernment, the ability to integrate intuition, analysis, values, and experience to make wise decisions. They unpack why discernment is more than quick judgment, how it differs from both gut instinct and data-driven analysis, and why it is essential for building trust, avoiding reactionary mistakes, and leading with clarity. Through real-world examples from the fire service, parenting, and organizational leadership, they highlight the challenges of slowing down in a fast-paced world, the role of humility in decision-making, and practical ways leaders can sharpen their discernment. If you’ve ever wondered how to move beyond reacting and start leading with wisdom, this episode will give you the tools and challenges to start practicing discernment in every aspect of life.

In this episode of the HC Leadership Podcast, hosts Kyle and Kerry explore a counterintuitive truth: effective leadership doesn’t require the loudest voice in the room. Drawing from experiences in the fire service, military, and beyond, they discuss how quiet, observant leaders build trust, influence others, and drive real change. From navigating strong personalities in meetings to empowering teachers and employees, this episode uncovers the power of listening, vulnerability, and presence in leadership. Learn how to lead with calm, confidence, and authenticity—because true leaders don’t need the spotlight; they create the stage for others to shine.

In this candid episode of the HC Leadership Podcast, Kyle and Kerry explore a topic often overlooked in leadership conversations: the value of coasting. Not all seasons of leadership require maximum effort. Sometimes, stepping back, giving yourself grace, and letting others step up can be the most strategic move. They discuss the importance of recovery, creative outlets, and prioritizing personal life while maintaining professional growth. Listen in as they share personal stories, practical insights, and encouragement for leaders navigating the balance between drive, self-care, and purpose.

In the debut episode of the newly rebranded HC Leadership Podcast, Kyle and Kerry take listeners on a deep dive into what it means to lead authentically. After three years as Heat of Command, they open a new chapter—one that reaches beyond the firehouse to explore leadership lessons from every industry and walk of life.

They unpack the challenges of shedding the “mask” that culture, profession, and insecurity often force us to wear, and why authenticity isn’t optional—it’s the foundation of true leadership. From Carl Jung’s ideas of persona and shadow, to raw stories of failure, identity struggles, and growth, Kyle and Kerry challenge listeners to step into discomfort, confront blind spots, and embrace the hard road of self-reflection.

This episode sets the tone for the future of the podcast: real conversations, raw truths, and leadership forged in fire, led with purpose.

In the final episode of this season, Kyle and Kerry take the gloves off and talk about what most leaders won’t: you can’t lead forward while clinging to who you used to be.

This is a no-frills conversation about the hard truth of transformation. Real leadership requires shedding old armor, unlearning habits that used to work, and facing the pain of becoming someone new. You’ll hear about the resistance that shows up when you try to grow, the backlash from those who liked you better when you were smaller, and why most people quit before they ever change.

But it’s also a call to keep going—to grow anyway. To stand by those who are in the fight. And to remember that becoming a better leader often means becoming a more honest, broken, and resilient human first.

If you're not uncomfortable, you're not growing. And if you're not growing, you're just playing dress-up with a title.