Beyond the Bandaids with Project PACT

How can communities and police departments work together to move beyond quick-fix solutions in public safety?

This episode explores a different philosophy of justice that emphasizes healing, accountability, and community engagement. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss why traditional punitive systems fail and how restorative approaches can build safer, more connected communities. Together, they highlight solutions that promote responsibility, reduce recidivism, and foster genuine public safety.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The limitations of "bandaid" solutions in public safety and policing.

* Why changing police chiefs or adding body cameras isn’t enough.

* The importance of community engagement in public safety solutions.

* How restorative justice offers an alternative to punitive models.

* Why traditional systems struggle to lower recidivism rates.

* The role of neuroscience in justice reform.

* How victims' voices are often missing from the justice process.

* Examples of successful community-police partnerships, like Evanston’s Care Card program.

Chapters: 

(01:03) What Does a "Bandaid" Solution Look Like?

(06:33) Historical Perspectives on Justice and Recidivism

(15:28) The Current Criminal Justice System

(23:05) Choosing Accountability vs. Forced Accountability

(30:29) Victim Healing and Community Voice

(38:42) Alternatives to Traditional Justice Approaches

(46:45) Proactive Community Engagement

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Care Card Program, Evanston, Illinois.

* Viktor Frankl’s book, Man’s Search for Meaning.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

How can police departments foster a culture where accountability is chosen rather than imposed?

This episode explores how police departments and communities can create a sustainable culture of accountability. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of vulnerability, transparency, and shared responsibility in transforming public safety. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The distinctions between legislated, demanded, purchased, and chosen accountability.

* How flattening organizational structures promotes responsibility at all levels.

* Why peer accountability is often more effective than top-down enforcement.

* The role of community engagement in fostering trust and shared responsibility.

* Listening as the first step in creating solutions that work for both police and the public.

* How early intervention and reporting improve community safety.

* Using technology, like body-worn cameras, to highlight positive community interactions.

* Metrics that measure progress beyond crime statistics.

Chapters: 

(02:15) Defining Accountability in Policing and Communities

(10:47) Mike on Chosen Accountability

(14:46) Building Internal Organizational Culture

(24:18) Community Engagement 

(34:51) Vulnerability and Listening

(39:11) Technology and Metrics

(47:36) Taking Action

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com

What changes can we make to improve trust and collaboration between law enforcement and communities? 

This episode explores the evolving role of law enforcement and its impact on communities. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of community relationships, trauma-informed practices, and systemic policy changes to bridge the gap between police and the public. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The historical context of law enforcement’s role in American society.

* The evolution of policing from punitive measures to community-focused practices.

* The impact of community isolation and the loss of social capital on public safety.

* The role of trauma in law enforcement and its effects on officers and citizens.

* The importance of transparent and authentic conversations between police and communities.

* Shifting police culture from patriarchal to partnership-oriented models.

* Hiring relationship-centered officers.

* How organizations like Project PACT, LEAP, and New Blue are driving policy and cultural change.

Chapters: 

(03:39) Defining Law Enforcement and Its Role

(07:25) The Purpose of Policing

(12:14) Morality and the Justice System

(20:06) The Evolution of Policing and Community Trust

(31:09) The Role of Social Capital in Public Safety

(37:54) Systemic Policies and Community Collaboration

(45:50) A Vision for the Future

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

How can communities and police departments work together to foster trust and well-being?

This episode explores the urgent need to rethink policing and community relationships. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss actionable strategies to shift police culture, amplify community strengths, and promote mutual understanding. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The limitations of traditional "band-aid" solutions in addressing systemic issues in policing.

* Fostering belonging within both police departments and the communities they serve.

* How Project PACT leverages collaboration to build trust and mutual understanding.

* The role of restorative justice and community-led initiatives in reimagining public safety.

* Strategies for creating cultures of empathy, compassion, and active listening within police departments.

* The concept of "amplifying the good" to crowd out negative patterns in both communities and law enforcement.

* Real-life examples of police departments empowering communities to become self-reliant.

* The need for systemic reform alongside community transformation.

* Training programs offered by Project PACT to equip police and community leaders with essential skills.

Chapters: 

(03:50) Why Policing Feels "Stuck"

(07:17) The Role of Idealism in Policing

(10:02) Amplifying the Good Within Communities

(14:40) Collaboration Between Police and Community Members

(18:10) The Role of Police in Healing Trauma

(25:17) Essential Skills for Reimagining Policing

(36:38) Shifting Police and Community Cultures Together

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com

How can communities and police redefine their roles in ensuring public safety?

In this episode, Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss innovative approaches to community and police collaboration. They explore the importance of shared accountability, belonging, and proactive engagement to create safer, more connected neighborhoods. With real-life examples and practical insights, the hosts demonstrate how communities can take ownership of their well-being and transform public safety.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The concept of shared accountability in creating safer communities.

* Why a sense of belonging is essential for community health and safety.

* Shifting from a reactive to a proactive approach in public safety.

* How police can transition from a paternalistic model to a partnership model.

* Strategies for engaging youth and empowering them as community leaders.

* Real-life examples of successful community-police collaboration.

* Redefining public safety metrics. 

* Addressing the cultural and systemic barriers to police-community cooperation.

Chapters: 

(02:00) Redefining Community and Police Roles

(09:00) Building Trust Through Belonging

(16:30) Shifting to a Shared Model of Accountability

(24:00) Engaging Youth in Public Safety

(32:15) Examples of Community Empowerment

(42:00) Overcoming Barriers to Cooperation

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Safety in Our Hands, a book by Mike Butler and Peter Block: https://projectpact.org/resources/ 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

How can police departments and communities shift from problem-solving to creating possibilities? Also, what does a shared model of public safety look like, and how can it be achieved?

This episode dives into the transformative potential of reimagining public safety through collaboration between police and communities. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin explore the importance of shared responsibility, trust-building, and community engagement in creating safer, more connected neighborhoods. With insights from decades of leadership and innovative projects, they discuss actionable ways to redefine policing as a partnership rather than a hierarchy.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode:

* The distinction between solving problems and creating possibilities in public safety.

* Historical and cultural challenges in police-community relationships.

* The importance of police idealism and strategies to sustain it.

* The role of community voices in shaping policing policies and practices.

* Insights from Longmont’s strategic plan, involving 1,000 participants.

* Empowering communities to take shared responsibility for safety.

* Practical frameworks like the New Blue program for co-producing solutions.

* The role of conversations, dissent, and invitations in fostering collaboration.

* Building a culture of belonging and ownership within communities and police departments.

Chapters:

(02:19) Exploring the Vision of Project PACT

(07:46) Historical Challenges in Policing

(11:54) Shifting Power Dynamics in Police-Community Relationships

(18:32) Frameworks for Co-Producing Solutions

(22:27) Longmont’s Strategic Planning Journey

(32:02) Conversations on Possibility and Partnership

(42:28) Building Trust and Belonging

Resources mentioned in this episode:

* Community: The Structure of Belonging, a book by Peter Block.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT.

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/

New Blue: https://newblue.org/

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com

How can communities and police departments work together to move beyond the defund/refund binary?

In this episode, your hosts delve into innovative approaches to community policing and the need to move beyond traditional enforcement models. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss restorative practices, social capital, and the power of neuroscience in transforming public safety. Together, they explore how reimagining and repurposing police roles can lead to stronger, safer, and more connected communities.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The meaning behind the podcast’s title, Beyond the Bandaids.

* Recidivism rates and how restorative practices can break the cycle.

* The Care Card program in Evanston, Illinois, as a model of community engagement.

* The impact of police officers experiencing trauma and ways to address it.

* Examples of community collaboration transforming individual lives.

* Neuroscientist Dr. Bruce Perry's findings on trauma and healing.

* Challenges and cycles of "defund" versus "refund" narratives in policing.

* How reallocating police budgets can strengthen community resources.

* The importance of transcending traditional roles to redefine public safety.

Chapters: 

(02:00) Exploring Gratitude and Possibilities in Policing

(09:00) Community Programs 

(15:00) Understanding and Addressing Recidivism

(25:00) Transcending the Law and Order Mindset

(35:00) Neuroscience, Trauma, and Healing in Communities

(45:00) Reallocating Resources for Public Safety

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* The Boy Who Was Raised as a Dog, a book by Dr. Bruce Perry. 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

How has the history of policing shaped its current challenges and public perception?

In this episode, the hosts explore the history and evolution of policing in the U.S. and its implications for public safety and community trust. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss how patriarchal models of policing have contributed to unhealthy dependencies. Through the lens of Project PACT, the conversation centers on fostering trust, redefining public service, and envisioning a future where communities and police work together to create lasting change.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The unintended consequences of over-reliance on police to solve community problems.

* How fear-based narratives in the media contribute to a culture of dependency on policing.

* The importance of moving from caretaking (a patriarchal model) to caring for communities.

* Redefining justice to include community voices and victim needs.

* Strategies for preserving the idealism of police officers entering the profession.

* How Project PACT aims to help communities and police transcend traditional models.

Chapters: 

(01:00) Historical Context of Policing

(07:00) The Pitfalls of Fear-Based Policies

(14:00) Shifting from Dependency to Collaboration

(20:45) Rebuilding Trust 

(29:00) The Role of Social Capital

(42:00) Rethinking Justice and Public Safety

(54:00) Looking Ahead with Project PACT

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Stewardship: Choosing Service Over Self-Interest, a book by Peter Block. 

* Community: The Structure of Belonging, a book by Peter Block. 

* "Safety in Our Hands," a pamphlet by Mike Butler and Peter Block. 

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com 

How can we improve the trust and collaboration between the police and the community? 

This debut episode explores the concept of moving beyond Band-Aid solutions to address the root causes of problems in our communities and create a safer, more connected future. Your hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of community engagement, restorative practices, and social capital in building trust and collaboration between the police and the community. They also emphasize the need to see people, organizations, and communities through the lens of goodness and possibility. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

* The need to move beyond bandaid solutions and address the root causes of problems in our communities. 

* The importance of community engagement in public safety. 

* The role of restorative practices in building trust and collaboration between the police and the community. 

* The concept of social capital and its importance in addressing social and health issues. 

* Seeing people, organizations, and communities through the lens of goodness and possibility. 

* The importance of compassion and understanding in creating a shared vision for public safety. 

* The role of the police in meeting community needs and facilitating community engagement. 

* Looking at what's working well and expanding on it. 

* The need for a new model of policing that is more connected to the heart of the community. 

Chapters: 

(0:59) The Vision of Project PACT (Police And Community Together) 

(2:02) Beyond the Bandaids: Addressing the Root Causes of Problems 

(5:15) Carol’s Background in Social Responsibility and Social Sustainability 

(11:32) Kristin's Background in Justice System Work

(15:25) Mike's Background in Public Service and Community Partnerships 

(18:55) The Power of Social Capital: Addressing Social and Health Issues 

(25:55) Creating a Shared Vision for Public Safety 

Resources mentioned in this episode: 

* Safety In Our Hands, a booklet by Mike Butler and Peter Block.  

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/project-pact-police-and-community-together/about/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/project.pact/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org  

This episode was produced by Story On Media & Marketing: https://www.successwithstories.com

The Beyond the Bandaids podcast is where police, public safety experts, city leaders, and engaged community members explore how to create real, meaningful change in our communities. 

Each week, hosts Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, Kristin Daley, and Chief Mike Butler talk with experts and visionaries who are transforming public service. Discover how innovative leadership, compassion, and restorative practices can bridge gaps and build stronger connections between community stakeholders and police officials.

If you're ready to rediscover your purpose within your community, enhance your leadership, and make a lasting impact, Beyond the Bandaids with Project PACT is the podcast for you. Whether you're a police officer, city leader, or committed community member, join us to unlock new possibilities for a safer, more connected future. 

Here is a selection of just a few of the important topics that Mike, Carol, and Kristin will explore in coming episodes: 

* The evolution of policing and how our hosts’ experiences shape their perspectives on justice and reform.

* Why the endless tug-of-war over police funding misses the real conversation about safety, accountability, and community well-being.

* A fresh perspective on whether police and communities are at odds—or if they can build something better together.

* How shifting from reliance on law enforcement to shared community responsibility can create lasting safety and resilience.

* What if public safety was built on trust, equity, and collaboration rather than outdated models of enforcement?

* A critical look at how law enforcement interprets and applies the law—and whether it truly serves justice for all.

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