Are the police responsible for fixing the social issues of our communities?

In this episode, we continue to explore what we discussed in the previous episode—what it means for a police department to go beyond arrests and citations. Chief Butler reflects on his time in Longmont, Colorado, describing how acknowledging pain, listening deeply, and experimenting with restorative justice transformed both the police department and the community. Together, we highlight how partnerships, shared accountability, and social connections create a safer and more connected future.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

03:20 – Acknowledging the Past

* Mike recalls the challenges he faced in Longmont after a tragic incident.

* The importance of recognizing trauma and beginning with deep listening.

11:46 – Listening and Building Trust

* How vulnerability and active listening laid the groundwork for new community relationships.

* How creating safe spaces for dialogue builds trust internally and externally.

* Mike describes holding multiple listening sessions with staff and the community to move conversations from pain toward the future.

21:00 – Planting Seeds of Change

* Connecting the concept of “fertile soil” to the cultural shift away from black-and-white policing.

25:18 – Alternatives to Enforcement

* Restorative justice and how Longmont’s efforts reduced recidivism and improved victim satisfaction.

32:32 – Measuring Success Differently

* Three guiding questions for public safety: community safety, reducing recidivism, and healing victims.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

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Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

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Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

What alternatives to arrests and citations can reduce harm and strengthen safety?

In this episode, Mike, Carol, and Kristin challenge the overreliance on arrests and citations as default responses to complex social and health issues. They explore how the criminal justice system’s one-size-fits-all model perpetuates cycles of harm for both offenders and victims. They also highlight the need for upstream solutions, deeper community partnerships, and practical alternatives that prioritize safety and belonging.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:19) Overrelying on the Criminal Justice System

* How arrests and citations have become default tools for addressing social and health issues.

* Why some elected officials perpetuate the idea that laws and penalties can “fix” complex problems, despite high recidivism rates.

(8:29) Building Trust and Compassion

* Mutual trust, compassion, and resource development are foundations for healthier police-community relationships.

(15:57) Disentangling Police From the Criminal Justice “Hip”

* Challenging police departments to develop alternatives beyond arrests, urging connection with the “heart of the community.”

(22:30) Lack of Options and Systemic Bottlenecks

* Calls for emotional intelligence and active listening training to help officers discern better responses.

* How the lack of practical alternatives leaves officers with few options, feeding into an overwhelmed justice system.

(33:25) Community Partnerships

* The need for community collaboration and victim inclusion in justice processes.

* How restorative justice prioritizes healing for victims while reducing offender recidivism.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

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Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

How can we move beyond short-term police reforms and toward lasting cultural change?

This episode explores the evolving state of policing in America and the cultural shifts necessary for true reform. Mike, Carol, and Kristin reflect on the last decade of public safety, the recurring cycles of tragedy and retreat, and the need for interdependent relationships between police and communities. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(8:30) The Trap of Band-Aid Fixes

* Many police reforms are reactionary, failing to address deeper systemic issues.

* How punitive legislation overlooks community responsibility.

(20:20) Shifting the Power Dynamic

* Why fear-based policies harm both police and community trust.

* How community empowerment is key to healthy public safety.

(28:05) Ending the Tug-of-War

* How alignment and trust build stronger neighborhoods.

* Police departments can be leverage points for broader cultural evolution.

(36:00) The Hope for Sustainable Change

* A vision of citizens as collaborators in safety.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

What can happen when a police department invites the community to co-author its mission?

This episode explores Chief Mike Butler’s transformational leadership in Longmont, Colorado, revealing how authentic conversations, strategic vulnerability, and restorative justice reshaped public safety. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:44) Reimagining Police Leadership

* How Mike used conversation and curiosity to understand and reshape Longmont’s policing culture.

(8:57) Vulnerability and Transparency in Policing

* Mike discusses the strategic planning process that involved over 1,000 community and staff voices.

* How internal healing allowed police officers to extend trust and vulnerability outward.

(22:01) Restorative Justice and Youth Engagement

* Restorative justice models that address youth crime.

* How co-creating with citizens helped reduce reliance on the criminal justice system.

(29:46) Mental Health and Community-Based Responses

* Longmont’s interventions with addiction.

* The role of community in reducing crime and creating healing.

(35:22) The Role of Training in Cultural Shift

* The importance of training in reshaping officer mindset and skills.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

What qualities truly matter when selecting a future police chief? Also, how can police departments develop leaders who are genuinely transformational? 

This episode rethinks the selection and development of police leaders, emphasizing the need for transformational individuals who can foster profound community engagement and move beyond traditional law enforcement roles. Hosts Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the importance of relational skills, transparency, and a long-term vision for police chiefs to build trust and create a safer, more connected future. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(2:53) Rethinking Police Leadership

* The need for a shift in mindset around leadership development in police departments.

(08:08) Culture and Accountability

* Why transparency and cultural change should be priorities for leaders.

* The lack of relational training in formal education programs.

(14:34) Flaws in the Chief Selection Process

* How many selection panels ignore the qualities that build long-term community trust.

* Mike shares a hiring story to illustrate how being people-oriented is a non-negotiable.

* Leadership must move beyond strategic planning to relational presence and team-building.

(34:48) Advice for Police Chiefs 

* Reflecting on ambition and on your leadership style.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

What kind of person is truly fit to serve as a public safety officer today? And how can police departments attract individuals focused on public service and community well-being?

This episode explores what it means to hire the right people for public safety roles in today's world. Mike, Carol, and Kristin examine the traits of a PACT-aligned officer—one who is emotionally intelligent, community-driven, and adaptable. Together, they challenge outdated models of enforcement and offer a hopeful, practical vision for the future of policing.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:43) The Right Kind of Candidate

* Ideal traits include communication, empathy, and a service mindset.

* How policing needs both physical readiness and emotional range.

(6:15) Police and Culture

* Mike recounts his early career and the shift from enforcement to approachability.

* The impact of support systems on officer well-being.

* Emotional maturity, curiosity, and resilience are highlighted as key traits.

(17:42) How to Evaluate a Police Department

* Questions new hires could ask.

(23:30) Innovation and Adaptability in Policing

* Generational traits and collective innovation.

* The importance of adaptable police officers.

* The role of lifelong learning and curiosity is unpacked.

* How negligent hiring harms communities and police departments.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

How can police and community leaders cultivate a culture where ownership is safe and encouraged?

This episode explores what it really means to take ownership—within a police department, an organization, or a community. Mike, Carol, and Kristin discuss the cultural shifts required to move away from entitlement and toward responsibility and empowerment. With practical stories and honest insights, they offer tips for building systems where trust, collaboration, and innovation thrive.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:00) Defining Ownership in Organizations

* How ownership connects to outcomes and organizational vision.

* Reframing ownership as a responsibility to people and culture.

(6:37) Leadership, Fear, and Entitlement

* How entitlement stems from disconnection and blame.

* The need for leaders to confront fear and create safe environments.

* Henry Ford’s quote: “'Why is it every time I ask for a pair of hands, they come with a brain attached?”

(13:18) Creating Cultures of Safety and Risk

* What leaders can do to support new ideas.

* How organizational structures squash creativity.

(16:49) Real Stories of Ownership 

* Police officers redesigned the master officer program based on impact, not paperwork.

* Community members launched a citizen patrol program with police support.

(24:57) The Benefits of Ownership

* How ownership leads to trust, innovation, and community safety.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

What does it mean to choose service over self-interest in your professional and community roles? Also, how can we redefine leadership through stewardship instead of control?

In this episode, Mike, Carol, and Kristin explore the transformational concept of stewardship—moving from patriarchal control to shared community ownership. They discuss how stewarding people, not managing them, fosters deeper accountability, creativity, and connection. 

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:41) Defining Stewardship

* Stewardship means honoring people, not controlling them.

(5:57) Building Culture Through Literacy and Dialogue

* Mike describes launching "Our Town" conferences with Peter Block.

(11:46) From Citizen to Steward 

* How civic engagement starts in your own neighborhood.

* Progress takes time, conversation, and perseverance.

(18:05) Skills for Stewardship and Shared Responsibility

* The skills needed to shift culture.

* The importance of asking good questions.

* How training can change the relationship between citizens and institutions.

Mentioned in this episode: “Stewardship: Choosing Service Over Self Interest,” a book by Peter Block.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/

How can police departments foster genuine partnerships both internally and with the communities they serve?

This episode dives into the foundational principles of authentic partnerships within policing. The hosts explore transparency, shared accountability, and leadership that values every voice. Real-world examples show how shifting culture fosters trust, creativity, and sustainable public safety outcomes.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(1:25) Authentic Partnerships

* Partnerships should emphasize joint accountability, the right to express reservations, and honesty.

(4:57) Cultivating Trust and Openness

* How transparency is essential for mutual trust. 

* The importance of partners being equal. 

(11:46) Leadership and Generational Perspectives

* An open mind is often more important than an open door for leaders.

* How seniority brings wisdom but also a different worldview. 

* Treating people with respect. 

(21:18) Collaborative Culture 

* How new police officers receive training to understand that their role is to help people help themselves, rather than simply being the answer.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/ 

How can your community or city leverage social capital to fill the gaps left by lost federal grants?

This episode explores how communities can thrive and create meaningful change even as federal funding for social and health programs is being cut. The hosts emphasize a shift from dependency on outside sources to leveraging the social capital within our communities. They share examples of successful initiatives where local resources, volunteers, and partnerships were galvanized to address issues like domestic violence and addiction, thus healing their own wounds.

Topics that Chief Mike Butler, Dr. Carol Engel-Enright, and Kristin Daley explore in this episode: 

(0:22) Rethinking Federal Dependency

* The growing concern about disappearing federal funding for community-police initiatives.

* Why some police departments chose not to rely on ongoing federal support.

(10:28) Community Solutions in Action

* Initiatives to reduce domestic violence without using federal money.

* The power of galvanizing neighborhoods, churches, and businesses.

(25:40) Addiction and the Angel Initiative

* Addressing substance abuse and offering care as part of a community-wide commitment.

* Helping people recover and reenter society.

(33:58) Self-Reliant Neighborhoods 

* How to identify “connectors” in neighborhoods and empower them to lead.

* Neighborhoods thrive when they coalesce around trust, safety, and mutual care.

(42:42) Neuroscience and Healing

* Curiosity, not suspicion, is key to changing brains and communities.

This episode of Beyond the Bandaids is brought to you by Project PACT (Police And Community Together). Learn more about Project PACT by visiting https://projectpact.org/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/project_pact_org/ 

Newsletter: https://projectpact.org/our-courses/ 

Contact Us: https://projectpact.org/contact-us/ 

Connect with the co-hosts of Beyond the Bandaids:

Chief Mike Butler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-butler-6b0b2587/ 

Dr. Carol Engel-Enright on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carol-engel-enright-97701a10/ 

Kristin Daley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-daley-23bb7b26b/ 

The following three organizations—each committed to enhancing community well-being and policing integrity—joined forces to create Project PACT. 

Law Enforcement Action Partnership (LEAP): https://lawenforcementactionpartnership.org/ 

New Blue: https://newblue.org/ 

The School of Statesmanship, Stewardship & Service (SOSSAS): https://sossas.org/ 

Beyond the Bandaids is dedicated to exploring how police officers, public safety professionals, community leaders, and community members can reconnect with their sense of purpose and inspire positive change in their local community.

Subscribe via Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3Fd6ngx 

Subscribe via Spotify: https://spoti.fi/4h8puWm 

Subscribe via YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ProjectPACT-org 

This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co/