Description: Today we are joined by Ryan Stitt of the History of Ancient Greece podcast to look at the history and myths of ancient Greece through the lens of the 2004 epic Troy starring Orlando Bloom, Brendan Gleeson and Brad Pitt. Ryan traces the earliest versions of the epic poem by Homer which is the basis of the movie, discuss the gods and characters involved and much more.

 

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Ryan Stitt host of The History of Ancient Greece Podcast

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Today we are talking about the movie troy from 2004 as the retelling of the classic story of a 10 year long siege of the Asia minor city of troy by the various kingdoms of Greece. We will see all the characters we expect Achilles Helen of troy, agamemnon, Paris, and many more. Today. We'll dig in in order to find out what was the background of the movie troy, and what is the history and the connection to the literature of homer. We have our work cut out for us today, so I'm really glad to be joined by Ryan Stet of the history of ancient Greece podcast. Brian studied classical languages and ancient history at the University of Alabama. He also has done post graduate work at Ucla, Brian, as an active duty commissioned officer in the United States air force. Brian tells the story of ancient Greece through a narrative rich with details and entertaining storylines, so thank you so much for coming onto the show and thank you for your service.

You're welcome. It's my pleasure. I've been a big fan of, uh, your first podcasts, the history of papacy, and I'm extreme fan of, uh, this adventure that you're going on now with the big screen podcast.

Thank you so much. Let's just quickly go over the production details. A courtesy of I am DB, but director is Wolfgang Peterson. He's the director of many big budget, big action movies. It's based on the Iliad by homer, an ancient piece of work which we'll get into it, so run time of approximately a hundred and 60 minutes and it's scored in the mid fifties and both rotten tomatoes and metacritic, so not like off the charts but pretty decent, but cast as a mega cast. We're talking Brad Pitt, Eric Bana, Orlando Bloom, a lot of bases that would be very recognizable, but maybe might not put your finger on them, such as Brian Cox. Probably everybody would know Peter or two old, but Brendan gleason, but also Sean bean who was, um, sharps and the famous sharps, a television program, but he was also in the Lord of the rings and just many, many more. Uh, Brian, tell us a little bit about the characters and the Elliott and maybe what you thought about how they were portrayed on the screen before we dig in too deeply. So like Brad Pitt as a Kelly's.

I actually liked the casting or Brad Pitt. It's actually come to the point where I can't think of an image of Achilles without picturing his face and the way he moved in the armor and the movies. I liked it. The casting role for that, I liked the casting for Hector and Orlando Bloom for Paris. A Orlando did a perfect job in my opinion of impersonating the cowardness that, that is attached to Paris and making them seem like this weaselly loverboy. And uh, I actually, I really liked that. Um, I don't know if it's some...

Description: We continue with the story of one of the greatest upsets in sports history when Team USA beat possibly the greatest hockey teams ever, the Soviet men’s hockey team.

 

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This is part two of an episode discussing the story behind the [inaudible] miracle on Ice Team USA men's gold medal hockey team as portrayed through the [inaudible] movie miracle. I highly suggest you listen to part one of this episode. Before we drop the puck on [inaudible], don't worry, we'll be waiting for you beyond the big screen.

OK, herb brooks got this team together. Just when they're getting ready to go to lake placid for the Olympics. They played a series of games against different teams. How did those turn out for the team USA team did her brooks to demonstrate and those early games that they were ready to take on the Soviet juggernaut team.

I'll give you two to two examples. One is famous. Anybody who knows the story is going to know this one, they played team Norway and they tied them three to three, and herb's mind that is a game they should have won outright. No two ways about it. They should have destroyed team Norway because heard had been training them so hard that they were in the best shape of their lives. He said that you might not be the most skilled team in this tournament, but I swear to God you will be the most conditioned. And it's funny. I have to deviate for a second with my own local team, the blue jackets. We got a new president of hockey operations a few years ago. I don't know if he consciously borrowed this from herb or if it was just the planets aligning or what, but he said, you know, we might not be the most talented team out there.

We will be in the best condition. We will play all, all 60 minutes. And I thought that was a really good way to do it because you can lose a game in the flick of a switch. I mean, it, it's, it's very easy. And so you, you, you want to play all out all the time. And um, and that's what herb was doing to them and getting them in shape for. Because if they couldn't do that against a quote unquote puny little team like Norway, how would they ever do it against the very best against the Soviets who were routinely beating all star teams from the NHL? How could they possibly accomplish that if they, if they can't beat team Norway, he caught several players looking into the stands and this is featured in the film, uh, looking at some attractive young ladies and thinking about where they'd like to take them for dinner.

And herb herb caught him and he says, at the end of this really embarrassing [inaudible] tie, you don't want to skate during the game. You'll skate right now. So, uh, they get back on the ice and then that is what leads to the famous Herbie's in the dark scene. And, uh, he skates them, skate some into the ground red line, red line, red line, Blue Line, so on and so forth, down the length of the ice. And when they're done, he has them do it again and again and again. And again. He just, he's yelling at...

Title: Miracle (2004) with Shane Guilfoyle Part 1

Description: Miracle is the classic David versus Goliath story. The scrappy underdog Team USA hockey team takes on the juggernaut of Soviet Team in the 1980 Winter Olympics in 1980. Shayne Guilfoyle of the History of Hockey podcast will show us how this Team USA developed in a short time from a bunch of amateur college kids to take out the greatest team in hockey in one of the most exciting and important games in sports history.

 

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Thank you so much for joining us again for a new special episode of beyond the big screen today. We are joined by Shane Gilfoyle of the history of hockey podcast to discuss hockey in the Olympics, particularly one of the most important and exciting times and US Olympic hockey history, the famous miracle on ice team of the 1980 Olympics in Lake placid, New York, USA. We will be using the 2014 movie miracle as a lens and jumping off point to discuss this fascinating time in sports history depending on when you are listening to this, the 2018 Olympics and peon Chang South Korea are still going on or just wrapped up, so I hope this will contextualize Olympic hockey a bit more. Thank you so much for coming on today. Shane.

Steve, thank you so much for having me. This is really an honor. Truly, I mean that. Thank you.

I'm really excited to dive into. It's a great story, a great story, and you have a really great podcast detailing the history. I love the history of sports. There's just so much there.

There really is. I, I, uh, I kind of feel like there's almost not enough of it out there. It's kind of something that people maybe don't, don't think about. Um, you know, there's a history of warfare and all of that really juicy stuff, but sports kind of seemed to, to fall by the wayside. So

maybe you can tell us a little bit about yourself and your interesting back story on how you got yourself interested in hockey and starting a hockey podcast.

Uh, yeah, I'd love to. Um, originally I, I'm, uh, from Colorado. I grew up in a little town of about 5,000 people, a two or three roads, only one of which was paved a that was in a central Colorado and I'm kind of up in the mountains a little bit, so it was always cold, always snowy. And uh, I spent my winters there with my mom, my older brother. And um, I, I really owe a lot of my love for hockey to my mom, which is kind of funny because she's never ever been a sports person. Uh, but she, she saw that I liked it and really encouraged me to do it and we would sit down and watch games and my neighbor actually had an NHL sports package and he would let us come over and watch the games and, you know, growing up, playing myself, we had about a two sheets of ice, was, was really, really big, could fit tons and tons of kids on it.

And then one was about the size of a modern day, just one zone of, of a hockey rink. Um, and, and so, you know, one was really big, one was small and, and uh, and both I was so lucky they were very, very nearby. And so my brother and I would, would go out there and uh, he's older, so I would, I would cry m...

Description: Today we are joined by Professor Bart Ehrman. We talk about the New Testament as a piece of literature. Dr. Ehrman will show us some of the interesting historical context of the text and we will also discuss the New Testament in film!

 

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Thank you for joining us today for this very special interview with one of the most acclaimed biblical scholars of our day, Professor Barr Ermine. Dr Irwin is a religious studies professor at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill in the United States. He is the author or editor of over 30 bucks, including the soon to be released book the triumph of Christianity, how a forbidden religions swept the world. He is also the author of the book last Christianity's, which I read from cover to cover several times over. We are going to have a wide ranging conversation on the rise of Christianity, the Bible, and the Bible and Christianity in popular culture. Dr Herman has appeared on the history channel, BBC Jon Stewart show. I mean, you name it. It is. Um, I'm just incredibly humbled to have you on the show. Thank you so much for joining us today.

Yeah, thanks for. Thanks for having me. It's my pleasure.

Now, can you maybe give us a little bit about your background and your areas of academic interest?

You're right, you want my academic background? So I, um, uh, I uh, did my graduate work at Princeton theological seminary, um, did both a masters of divinity and a phd there. I went to Princeton because I was interested in studying the Greek manuscripts of the New Testament and the world expert in that topic was a man named Bruce Metzger who taught at Princeton theological seminary. And so I had, I had no other particular interest in going to princeton seminary other than this fellow top there. And so I went there and did a master's thesis with him, then did my phd there. And, uh, the field I worked on was the study of the Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. I'm the technical field of textual criticism. Um, while I was finishing my phd there, I started teaching at Rutgers University, uh, in New Jersey and was there for four years. And now I've been at a University of North Carolina for 30 years. So that's the rough academic background.

So you got interested in the Bible through the Greek manuscripts. What drew you towards those?

Uh, well, actually, um, I got interested in the Bible because of my personal religious commitments back when I was a young when I was a teenager. Um, and uh, I had a born again experience in high school and decided I wanted to know more about the Bible. And so my initial college experience was actually at a fundamentalist Bible school. I'm Moody Bible Institute and it was there that I was, I was very, very death angelical Christian and I believed at the time that the Bible's very words had been inspired by God in some way. Uh, and I got interested in Greek manuscripts because I knew the different manuscripts had different wording and I was interested in knowing how do we establish what the original wording is, um, given the fact that we have so many manuscripts with so many difference...

Description: Erik Fogg of the Reconsider Podcast joins us again to discuss the 3 Blade Runner shorts and wrap up the themes that cross over between Blade Runner 2019 and 2049. If you enjoyed the episodes on Blade Runner 2019 and Blade Runner 2049, you will definitely enjoy discussing how the movies fit together.

 

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Thanks again for joining us today. Today we are going to wrap up our series on blade runner and blade runner 2049 and the past three episodes. We've discussed these two movies and the really powerful themes they uncovered and discussed. Today. We're going to discuss how the two movies fit together and explore a few more issues that came up and just try and tie these two movies together. I'm very happy to be joined again by interest of the reconsider podcast and as we well know since you've listened to the three previous episodes, we know that reconsider as a political and current events podcast, Eric and as partners and or help you contextualize current politics and history and broader forces and political theory, reconsider helps you rise above the one liners, the 140 character politics and the tribal narrative and their motto is we don't do the thinking for you. Thank you so much for coming on for a fourth time, Eric. Oh yeah, my pleasure. I mean obviously I love your show

and one of the things I really love about talking about movies like this is it lets us look at, um, and by like this, I mean, I mean really good movies that do a great job exploring society, exploring humanity. They let us as people really look into humanity and looking to society today through in another place where it's sort of safe where we can say. Or we can say, Hey, what, what does this tell us about humans as a whole about society, about government, about how we get along with each other as a whole where we're not as emotionally tied up in it, right? Because this, this isn't our world. It's just a story. But we can learn a lot from it. And so it gives us this opportunity to ask some questions about ourselves that aren't as threatening. Whereas, you know, as, as I'm sure you're aware from the current political climate, if someone from your not from your political tribe asks these kinds of questions in a way that's not comfortable for you, you can get very defensive. And so movies can be a great place to be able to have some of those tough questions and when they're well built, they're. There are questions that are open to everyone. I think blade runner does a great job of that and I'm always happy to keep talking about it and other, you know, other great movies like that with you.

Yeah. This is just a great movie as a sandbox to see how a lot of different ideas can be played out. Yeah, exactly.

And the, I think the true brilliance of blade runner as a sci fi and something that is. I think the, the, what's it, the gold standard of CFI is it doesn't get us asking, oh, what happens when this technology comes around? That's interesting. Right? But it's an...

Description: Today we are joined again by Erik of the Reconsider Podcast to discuss Blade Runner 2049. This movie is a sequel to the 1982 Blade Runner film. We discuss the themes this movie explored and the evolution of the characters in this great movie.

 

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This is beyond the big screen podcast with your host Steve Guerra and Agoura Podcast Network member.

Welcome back to Beyond the big screen. Today we are very happy to be joined by Eric of the reconsider podcast. And today we're going to take a deep dive into the movie Blade Runner 2049. And if you listen to last week's episode we talked about Blade Runner from 1982. So these are two great episodes to listen to back to back. So I highly suggest you go back and listen to that episode. But it's not required obviously. Not so much because you need that as background knowledge for this movie or episode it's just because it was a great show. So thank you so much Eric for being on today.

Yeah my pleasure. I love your show and I love this movie and I love talking about it.

Great. Thank you. So reconsider is a podcast about politics and news but it's really much more than just the news of the day sort of thing that you can get on TV or radio Zander and Eric which I'm sad to say Zander wasn't able to join us today but they help you contextualize current politics and history in the broader forces and in political theory reconsider helps you rise above the one liners. The 140 character politics and the tribal narratives. Their motto is We don't do the thinking for you and they really don't. And that's why I think it's such an amazing podcast. Do you have anything you could to add to that Eric.

No thanks man. I think one of the things that I really like about reconsider is that Zander and I don't always agree on everything and we do a great job. I think showcasing how to discuss stuff in a way that you know in a way which we're really learning and one of these days I want to do a behind the scenes episode where we actually because we build these we build these episodes out with a lot of disagreement and we do a bunch of research and learn some stuff as we go. So I kind of want to do one of these blind to show a little more of how we do that. That's my favorite part is when we disagree and it's a good time.

Yeah that's really cool. I'd love to listen to an episode like that. Now this movie Blade Runner 2049 is currently in the theaters. If you're listening to this show in the 2017 2018 time period it stars Ryan Gosling as Kay Harrison Ford reprising his role as Daccord there's Robin Wright Penn and a bunch of other great actors. It was released in October of 2017. We will definitely have a few spoilers in this episode but I'm not sure but I think this is a good way to help you understand the movie and maybe get a little different perspective when you're watching at church. And second fourth or fifth time and this film takes place about 30 years in the future after the original Blade Runner movie and it's all of these. Blade Runner from 1982 and then this newest Blade Runner are all based on the 1968 Philip K. Dick novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep which was a great novel too. Two great movies based on a great novel.

Yeah I...

Description: Just in time to enjoy the Opening Ceremonies of the Games of the 23rd Winter Olympiad, today we have a bonus episode with our guest Ryan Stevens. Ryan is the producer of the Skate Guard Blog and was our guest for the Hello London episode. Ryan gives a primer on the history of Olympic Figure Skating and what to look forward to on the 2018 Winter Olympics in Pyeong Chang South Korea.

 

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This is beyond the big screen podcast with your host Steve Guerra and Agoura Podcast Network member.

Welcome back to this very special bonus episode of Beyond the big screen. Today we aren't specifically talking about a movie but instead we're revisiting a topic we discussed in a previous episode. Figure skating through the movie. Hello London. The 2013 Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang South Korea are upon us and I am very happy to be joined by Ryan Stevens of the Schaik blog to give us a little primer on Olympic figure skating. Thank you so much for joining us today Ryan.

Oh you're most welcome. It's a pleasure to speak with you.

Ryan Stephens is a former competitive figure skater and S.F.A Skate Canada judge. He's been writing about figure skating history since 2013. Ryan has media credentials with Skate Canada covering the 2016 Canadian Tire national skating championships in Halifax as well as conducting interviews with many of the top figure skaters past and present. And in June 2017 Ryan released a full length biography of British actress figure skater and dancer Bellita Jepson. Turner who is a contemporary of Sanya Henie who we discussed in the Hello London episode which will be linked to this and the Schoenaerts for this episode as well as the links to Schaik guard so I highly suggest you go back and listen to that episode because it was a lot of fun and very informative. Before we get rolling Can you just tell us a little bit about yourself and your blogger.

Absolutely. So I'm based in Halifax Nova Scotia. I'm here in Canada. For those of you that are down in the States and I write about skating history all around the world and I cried about a little bit I bounced around a little bit a released three bloggers a week covering a whole range of topics everything from how schooling might have developed in a certain country to a biography of a skater to look back at an event. So we just kind of bump bump around a little bit and it's really a lot of fun.

Yeah that sounds like it that it gives you a lot of avenues to discover and explore different areas of the sport. Absolutely. Now can you just give us maybe a little bit of history or context to figure skating as an Olympic sport.

Certainly. So the first time that figure skating was actually included in the Olympic Games was in 1998 it was included in the summer Olympic Games in London England and there were three categories pardon me for categories. There were men's and women's singles skating pairs skating and a category that was only ever held at that first Olympics called special figures were skaters would trace out very intricate designs on the ice that they created themselves. And that was ...

Description: This is part 2 of a two part conversation on the movie Blade Runner (1982). We are joined today by Xander and Erik from the podcast Reconsider to discuss the many deep messages of this film.

 

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This is part two of a two part conversation on the 1982 movie Blade Runner with Eric and Zander from the podcast reconsider. I highly suggest you go back and listen to part 1 of this conversation. Don't worry we'll be waiting for you beyond the big screen.

You brought up those ideas of neech Nietzschean and the Christian elements and all those really come together when Roy confronts Dr. Tai Rao. What happens there and what how do those themes all tied together that you've brought up that you brought up earlier.

I it's funny I as I was making my notes I was thinking oh this is my favorite scene. Now this is my favorite scene. Now this one and I have six I realized six favorite scenes so this is one of them. And what happens is Roy finally gets to Dr. Tyrrel by tricking Sebastian and then coercing Sebastian and they get access. What's interesting by play is by playing and finishing the same moves as what's called The Immortal Game in chess. So it's a famous 1400's chess game where the I forget the guy's name. Whatever where the guy who ended up winning sacrificed tons of pieces to fool his opponent into making a move that exposed the king and so yeah checkmate. With some minor pieces at the end those pieces of course represent those minor pieces represent the replicants who are treated like pawns.

The King of course is Dr. Tyrrel and so once Roy makes those moves over the phone. Tyrrel actually Roy tells Sebastion to do it. Subash makes those moves over the phone and Tyrel is very impressed and he says something must be on your mind Subash. C'mon. And the big reveal. Roy is there. Tyrrel doesn't seem to surprise he actually says like I'm surprised it took me so long to get here. He knew that Roy was coming to talk to him. They have this discussion over whether Tyrrel can give Roy more life but Tyrrel cannot and they in that discussion Tyrrel tries to reason with Roy saying that he's lived this incredibly powerful. Flourishing life especially compared to other humans and he has the quote the candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long. It's this great scene of his face being very fatherly and in fact of course being the character of God he created Roy he decided how long Roy got to live.

And he's judging Roy as having lived a good life and sort of saying it's okay for you to die and here's with a Nietzschean moment comes up. God reveals Himself to be powerless to help Roy and to do anything for Roy. And so in that moment God dies for him right. Roy realizes that God is helpless and worthless to him. And Roy is so Royse still loves God as his father and he actually when he realizes that nothing can be done he holds Tyrrel by the face and kisses him on the lips. But then in holding Tyrrel he uses his superhuman strength to brutally crushed Tyrrell's skull and he digs his fingers into Tyrrell's eyes which in this movie are the window to the soul.

So Roy has become that ubermensch that judges God. And he says that like you know God is a hornet and evil for creating lives that are enslaved and.

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Description: Blade Runner (1982) was overshadowed by larger science fiction films at the time, but this movie has many profound messages for society, culture and technology. We are joined today by Xander and Erik from the podcast Reconsider to discuss the many deep messages of this film.

 

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Welcome. Today we are going to talk about the 1982 movie Blade Runner based on the Philip K. Dick novel Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. The book and the film are set in the near future. Postapocalyptic dystopia. One of my favorite genres as is common with the dystopian science fiction genre. Blade Runner addresses a number of political and political science issues political theory and even philosophy are important for our frameworks. While Blade Runner is not overtly political it does tie deeply into questions of humanist and theological philosophy and to morality as well. Ultimately all of this is critical for us deciding on what political action which is just our own moral personal moral action on collective scale to take. That's why it's fascinated Eric for so long and I'm very happy to be joined by Eric and Zander hosts of reconsider podcasts. Thank you guys so much for coming on today.

We are happy to be here. Thanks for having us.

Reconsider is actually a political podcast to help you contextualize current politics and history and broader forces and political theory reconsider helps you rise above the one liners. The 140 character politics and tribal narratives. Their motto is We don't do the thinking for you and they really don't. That's why it's such an amazing podcast and one of my personal favorites. Thanks.

Before we dig too deeply here's some production details. We watched the final cut which is the director's addition. Eric you had commented on that. Why do you think that that's a better cut of the film than it went through several evolutions.

Yeah I actually went through for the theatrical cut the international CUT THE DIRECTOR'S CUT AND THE FINAL CUT THE FINAL CUT being the one that Ridley Scott the director liked the best. And I have strong opinions on this and I think most other diehard Bladerunner fans do. There's a consensus generally that the final cuts the right one not only because Ridley Scott liked best. I don't know if Philip K. Dick liked it best but the reason we like it best is that the theatrical cut has a number of scenes. The biggest of which is the ending. The second biggest of which is the fact that Harrison Ford does a monologue. Does it like a backwards memory monologue. Like a lot of noir like she walked in and was you know the most beautiful woman I'd ever say. Mike's up to hair kind of thing.

And unfortunately what that does is it not only sounds stupid in the context of what is otherwise a beautiful movie but it also takes away the opportunity for you to do that thinking yourself so you know sort of as is our podcast motto I hate when things do the thinking for me. And so the the both the director's cut and the final cut take that those two key elements out. The Final Cut adds another element which is a unicorn dream that's really important to how you interpret. One of the big questions of the movie so if you guys haven't seen it yet on the show I know that listening. I'd h...

Description: Solomon Northup is wrenched from his home and life and sold into slavery. He is a free man who never gives up his spirit and belief in himself and his freedom. 12 Years a Slave is a fascinating story and gives us a lens into a dark time in United States history, but also a chance for hope and new beginnings.

 

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Narrator:                       This is Beyond the Big Screen Podcast with your host, Steve Guerra, an Agora Podcast Network member.

Steve Guerra:              Today, we're talking about the movie from 2013, 12 Years a Slave, and we're talking today with James Early, who is the administrator of the American History Fanatics Blog, and a very popular Facebook group. James is an adjunct professor of History at San Jacinto College in Pasadena, Texas, outside of Houston. And he's published one book and a number of scholarly articles. Along with running the blog and Facebook group, his main areas of research and interest are Eastern European history, the American Civil War, and the Cold War. Thank you so much for coming on today, James.

James Early:                 My pleasure, Steve. I'm excited to be here.

Steve Guerra:              Just to briefly introduce 12 Years a Slave, the movie documents the real life events of Solomon Northup, a free black man who lived in the mid-1800s New York, who was captured as a fugitive slave on a trip to Washington, D.C. Northup, also sometimes called Northrup, his freedom, and even his identity are stripped from him, and he continually finds himself in harsher and harsher conditions where he has to make even deeper critical moral decisions. Very briefly, the production details. It's based on the book, 12 Years a Slave by Solomon Northup. The screenplay is by John Ridley. It's directed by Steve McQueen, a different Steve McQueen, not the Steve McQueen from the '70s. It has a runtime of 134 minutes, and it did very well at the Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Supporting Actress, and Best Adapted Screenplay. And it has almost 100% Rotten Tomatoes and MetaCritic. The starring character of Solomon, also known as Plat when he was abducted as a slave, was played by the English actor Chiwetel Ejiofor. One of the slave masters was played by Michael Fastbender.

                                          We also have a relatively new actress, Lupita Nyong'o, who plays Patsy, an important slave character and a friend of Solomon. And then we also have Benedict Cumberbatch who plays William Ford, who was really very important in the book and important in the movie as well. And along the way we'll get into some of the other characters, particularly Brad Pitt, who ... I mean, he's a...