What happens when traditional treatments aren’t enough for trauma?
In this episode of Beyond the Dose, Michelle Harrell sits down with Michelle Orr to discuss the life-changing work of Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions (VETS) — a nonprofit providing safe, legal psychedelic therapy options for veterans and their spouses.
Together, they explore the realities many veterans face after service, including PTSD, depression, relationship strain, and the heartbreaking reality of veteran suicide rates. This conversation sheds light on how psychedelic-assisted therapies, including Ibogaine, MDMA, and Psilocybin, are helping veterans process trauma, reconnect with themselves, and rebuild their lives.
You’ll hear powerful insights on:
- Why trauma impacts the entire family system
- The critical role spouses play in the healing journey
- How MDMA supports trust, connection, and emotional safety
- Why integration and community support are essential after psychedelic experiences
- How programs like VETS are working to reduce stigma and expand access to care
We also encourage you to learn more about the documentary @inwavesandwar (In Waves and War on Netflix), which highlights the urgent need for innovative trauma treatments for veterans.
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Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions (VETS) is a nonprofit working to provide safe, legal access to life-saving psychedelic therapies for veterans and their spouses. These treatments are often the turning point for those who have exhausted traditional options.
Your support helps make these healing opportunities possible.
Learn more, get involved, or donate:
Veterans Exploring Treatment Solutions (VETS)
Instagram: @veteransolutions
Website: https://vetsolutions.org
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Vets Program and Its Importance
02:14 Personal Stories of Trauma and Healing
05:57 Exploring Different Psychedelic Modalities
11:22 The Impact of Ibogaine on Trauma
16:06 The Role of MDMA in Healing Relationships
18:44 Exploring MDMA and Its Effects
20:22 Psychedelics and Healing Journeys
21:42 Faith and Psychedelics: A Personal Connection
23:00 The Importance of Legal and Safe Practices
26:00 Integration: The Key to Healing
30:30 The Ambassador Program and Community Support
34:25 Breaking Stigmas Around Psychedelics
36:48 Outro