Episode Summary
In this episode, Michael explores the idea that teams are living systems, not static structures. Using a simple but revealing example from coaching youth soccer, he unpacks how teams change even when the surface details appear identical: same uniforms, same schedules, same rules.
From there, the episode draws a direct parallel to professional and engineering teams. People come and go. Responsibilities shift. Stressors appear. Energy changes. And yet we often behave as if teams should remain stable once assembled.
This episode introduces two foundational ideas that will recur throughout the podcast: impermanence and interdependence. Together, they explain why the same process can thrive in one team and fail in another, and why mechanical fixes often fall short when applied to human systems.
What We Cover in This Episode
* A youth soccer team as a living system, not a static group
* Why teams behave more like weather systems than machines
* How professional teams change even when structures stay the same
* The limits of linear models like “forming, storming, norming, performing”
* Why teams are never truly “done forming”
* How team changes are often driven by forces outside anyone’s control
* Technical and non-technical examples of cascading dependencies
* The difference between complicated systems and complex systems
* Applying state management thinking to human systems
* Why engineers default to mechanical fixes for organic problems
* The idea of skillful intervention rather than reactive control
* How awareness functions as a professional skill
Key Ideas from the Episode
Teams are always in motion.Even high-performing teams are constantly changing due to shifting priorities, personal stress, new responsibilities, and external pressure.
Stability is an illusion.The idea that a team can be assembled once and remain unchanged is comforting, but inaccurate.
Linear models flatten reality.Frameworks like forming and storming are useful, but they miss the ongoing, non-linear nature of real teams.
Change creates cascading effects.Just like in software systems, one change in a team often ripples outward in ways that are not immediately visible.
Mechanical fixes don’t always work on living systems.Adding process, tooling, or structure can help, but only if applied skillfully and with awareness of the system involved.
Awareness is not passive.Observing before acting allows better questions, better timing, and better decisions.
Influence is larger than it appears.Every interaction, and even silence, adds or removes tension from a team.
Who This Podcast Is For
* Engineers who notice friction in their teams but struggle to explain it
* Technical leaders trying to understand why processes succeed or fail unevenly
* Managers and architects navigating constant organizational change
* Developers interested in applying systems thinking beyond code
* Readers of Beyond the Commit looking for deeper exploration of its themes
* Anyone curious about leadership without control, and clarity without rigidity
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A Reflection Invitation
This week, Michael invites listeners to notice:
* One small shift in your team’s energy, pace, or communication
* Something that changed recently, even if it seemed minor at the time
* Where you feel the urge to immediately “fix” instead of observe
* How your presence, or absence, affects the system around you
These observations are often where the real work begins.
Mentioned in This Episode
* Beyond the Commit: The Human Side of Software DevelopmentMichael’s book on engineering culture, leadership, and the patterns beneath technical work
* Beyond the Stack PodcastA reflective companion to the book, focused on the lived reality of teams and systems
Closing Notes
Teams breathe. They expand and contract. They strengthen and weaken.
When we stop treating teams like machines and begin seeing them as living systems, we trade control for understanding and reaction for awareness.
If this episode resonated, you’ll find deeper reflections and essays on the Beyond the Stack Substack.And if you’ve read Beyond the Commit, many of these ideas will feel familiar, just explored more slowly and conversationally.
Episode 3 arrives soon.
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