During the generational transition, many cultures, as if in the intertidal zone, are contemplating how to pass on their traditions and what to do. In this episode, we encounter stories of people who strive to continue the ancestral wisdom they inherited, sharing knowledge accumulated through coexistence with nature beyond mainstream worldviews regarding medicine, architecture, and agriculture. We also learn about how the new generation learns, transforms, and continues this knowledge while seeking self-identity.

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Ｗe visit the Paiwan community in Lalauran, which has coexisted with the Amis people for a long time in Taiwan's east coast. They gradually establish their sense of self-identity by rebuilding the annual harvest ceremony, wearing traditional clothing, and reclaiming millet cultivation.

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The Penan people in Borneo, whose livelihoods depend closely on the jungle and are one of the few remaining nomadic communities. They take only what they need to live from the jungle and their core values include "sharing" and "not taking more than necessary for survival." Let's listen to Penan elders' path to how the jungle perpetually participates in their daily food and activities and their relationship with the modernization of dietary culture.

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Naming a child is an essential ritual for Borneo Highlander, Kayan and Kenya people, equating a child with the importance of their land and community. Children who have not undergone naming ceremonies are like spirits without a home. This segment shares this rarely discussed but essential tradition of the Kayan and Kenya people.

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For the Penan people, having a healthy life without the jungle is impossible. The jungle is like their natural pharmacy. This session records the invaluable herbal knowledge of the Penan people, as two elders slowly open this vast medicine cabinet filled with tree roots, plant stems and leaves, petals, and spring water, sharing how the jungle heals, poisons, feeds, and soothes them.

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We learn about the "River People" or Melanau tribe, who, before building their own homes, use body perception and pass down experiences through generations to find the most suitable and comfortable location and orientation in nature. This knowledge is passed down through physical experience from generation to generation.

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Ｗe visit the Amis community, Madawdaw, in Taiwan's east coast, where a young man, Akac Orat, recreated the traditional Amis house-building process, showcasing the cooperative and mutual assistance lifestyle among the community (malapaliw) and the spirit of taking from and giving back to nature, as he continuously practices to find the most direct connection with the homeland.

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Interviewee: Sakinu Tepiq(Paiwan), John Lu(Paiwan), Iling Luvaniyaw(Paiwan), Penan elders, Adrian Jo Milang(Kayan), Juvita Tatan Wan(Kenya), Walid Ali(Melanau), Akac Orat(Amis/Puyuma)

Interviewer: Wendy Teo, Wei Ling Hung, Yunjie Liao, Huei-Jen Lin, Sam Mei, Glee Lin

Recording: Nigel Brown, Wendy Teo, Wei Ling Hung, Sam Mei, Yii Kah Hoe

Editing/mixing/sound design: Nigel Brown

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Sounds exist in many ways in our everyday lives and we use it in many ways as well, whether to express ourselves or regulate our time. In this podcast, discover how sounds resonate in the traditional and modern lives of humans.

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Suryani takes us on an immersive listening of the rebab, a traditional 3-string instrument played within the traditional dance-drama performance, Mak Yong. She discusses its origins, its performative and ceremonial role in Mak Yong, and its likeness to other instruments in other cultures.

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Khenpo Ugyen Wangchuk draws the connection between chakra, wind energy, and sound—and how mastering the wind energy can elevate one's presence in this world.

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Take a walk with Sam Mei in the rainforest as she explains the various ways the Penan interacts, communicates, and utilitises sounds from the jungle in their daily lives.

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Adrian and Juvita discuss the use of percussions in the Kayan and Kenyah communities, playing different melodies for different purposes—from the call to gather to annoucing births and deaths.

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interviewee: Suryani, Khenpo Ugyen Wangchuk, Sam Mei, Adrian Jo Milang, Juvita Tatan Wan,

interviewer: Wendy Teo, Wei Ling Hung

recording: Nigel Brown, Wendy Teo, Yii Kah Hoe

editing/mixing/sound design: Nigel Brown

＊This podcast includes the use of ‘Ganze Gompa monks puja དཀར་མཛེས’ recording by djgriffin. Used under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 Licence. Original recording has been modified. Original recording is available here: https://freesound.org/s/98844/

聲音以許多樣貌存在於我們的生活之中，我們也以不同的方式使用或創造聲音，並以此為媒介，表達、傳遞、共鳴，進而達到溝通與理解。在這集播客，我們將從來自馬來西亞、婆羅洲、不丹的重要習俗，挖掘聲音如何迴盪過去與現代的人類生活。

語言：英文

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Suryani帶領我們進入一場由傳統三弦樂器喇巴卜(rebab)引領的傳統舞樂儀式，也是馬來西亞非物質傳統文化遺產，瑪蓉舞(Mak Yong)。在這個沈浸的聆聽過程中，Suryani也介紹了這個樂器以及瑪蓉舞的起源、在歷史上、表演場域和地方儀式中扮演的角色。

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堪布烏金旺楚是來自不丹的佛學上師，他介紹了藏傳佛教的修習實踐中，聲音(梵唱)、風與脈輪關係。

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我們與Sam Mei一起走入婆羅洲的雨林，聽她描述本南人(Penan)如何與來自叢林中的各種聲音互動與溝通。

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對於婆羅洲高山族卡揚與肯亞人來說，銅鑼是社群中彼此傳遞訊息重要工具，也聽聽Adrian and Juvita如何連結到關於生與死的回憶。

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報導人: Suryani, Khenpo Ugyen Wangchuk, Sam Mei, Adrian Jo Milang, Juvita Tatan Wan,

訪談人: Wendy Teo, Wei Ling Hung

錄音: Nigel Brown, Wendy Teo, Yii Kah Hoe

編輯/混音/聲音設計: Nigel Brown

＊這集播客使用了 ‘Ganze Gompa monks puja དཀར་མཛེས’ ，由djgriffin錄製，在Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 Licence許可下使用。原始錄音檔有被編輯修改，原始錄音檔可由此處獲得: https://freesound.org/s/98844/

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How do the spiritual, material, and natural worlds correlate and coincide in forming the culture and identity of various indigenous communities? In this podcast, immerse yourself in the wisdom shared by representatives from the Bunun community in Taiwan and the Semai, Melanau, and Borneon Highlander communities in Malaysia.

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Tama Dahu from Pasikaw, the Bunun community, explains how his people derive their way of life, customs, beliefs, worldview, and identity from the forest, how changes in the forest affected the Bunun, and what they are doing for the continuity of the Bunun wisdom.

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Ronnie Bahari shares how the Semai tribe, also known as dream people, uses dream to navigate their daily lives, from farming to hunting to healing.

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Walid Ali talks about the Melanau tribe and as river people, what the canoe and paddle mean to them as well as being in tuned with what they refer to as 'King of the River'.

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Adrian Jo Milang and Juvita Tatan Wan describe the few but highly important objects of belonging which the Dayak people hold dear to them as part of their identity, no matter where they are.

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interviewee: Tama Dahu, Seruyan Ronnie Bahari, Abdul Walid Bin Ali, Adrian Jo Milang, Juvita Tatan Wan,

interviewer: Yunjie Liao, Wei Ling Hung, Wendi Sia, Wendy Teo

recording: Nigel Brown, Wendy Teo, Yii Kah Hoe

editing/mixing/sound design: Nigel Brown

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精神、物質、自然世界如何在原住民文化的宇宙觀裡，彼此交織與共存？這集Podcast：Navigation/導航，讓我們透過聆聽，沈浸，跟隨台灣布農(Bunun)、馬來西亞閃邁(Semai)、馬拉瑙(Melanau)、達雅克(Dayak)的耆老與青年，循著山林、夢境、河川，在生命與生活中導航的智慧。

＊語言：中、英、馬來語

<01:10>來自巴喜告(Pasikaw)部落的布農耆老，Tama Dahu，聽他說他們過去在山林棲居、遷徙中，建構出的生活場景，和因地制宜的知識、信仰、世界觀。也帶我們暸解他與內本鹿小學校(Pasnanavan)在教育中延續布農智慧的精神。

<16:52>Ronnie Bahari將分享以「夢人」著稱的閃邁部落，祭師如何透過夢境，在日常活動中，從耕種、狩獵、醫病、祭典，指引族人方向。

<29:51>馬拉瑙又被稱作「河人」，每個人一出生就會得到一個船槳做會禮物，每個人都會有一艘獨木舟，此生與往生世界都將靠這船與船槳領航。讓我們來聽河人Walid Ali說說他的故事。

<40:07>婆羅洲高山族卡揚與肯亞人，在遷徙中總會帶著幾件傳家物件，Adrian與Juvita述說著這些物件印刻的遷徙痕跡，以及對他們來說等同長屋的歸屬感和身份認同感。

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報導人: Tama Dahu, Seruyan Ronnie Bahari, Abdul Walid Bin Ali, Adrian Jo Milang, Juvita Tatan Wan.

訪談人: Yunjie Liao, Wei Ling Hung, Wendi Sia, Wendy Teo

錄音: Nigel Brown, Wendy Teo, Kah Hoe

編輯/混音/聲音設計: Nigel Brown

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The project is initiated by The Corridor from Taiwan & Borneo Laboratory

from Malaysia with support from Asia Cultural Council.

In this 8 mins podcast pilot, we hear extracts of conversations from future episodes, with people across different communities: A Paiwan hunter from Lalauran, Taitung, spoke about the sacred relationship with other alive beings, embodied by hunters’ gestures. A representative from Kenya, one of the Borneo highlander (Dayak) community, expressed the purpose of gong’s sound for their village as a daily ritual. The dreamer from Semai and Termiar unveiled meaningful events, signs and symbols they seek in their dream and endangered shamanistic rituals. A piece of memory about the link between paddles and after-life for Melanau, a river community based in Mukah, Sarawak.

​​Four story snippets are juxtaposed and interwoven in this listening experience, providing you with a glimpse of first-hand interviews and completed narratives composed together by conversation setters and people in front of them. Full-length podcast series will release throughout 2021/2022 on Big Trip online platform.

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interviewee: Sakinu John, Juvita Tatan Wan, Ronnie Bahari, Walid Ali

interviewer: Yunjie Liao, Wendi Sia

recording: Wendy Teo, Wei Ling Hung, Nigel Brown

editing/mixing: Nigel Brown

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The project is initiated by The Corridor from Taiwan & Borneo Laboratory

from Malaysia with the support from Asia Cultural Council.