On the Ledge | May 23, 2025

Host: Dave Trafford
Guests: Tim Hudak (Partner, Counsel Public Affairs; former PC leader), Keith Leslie (CHCH political commentator), John Wright (Pollster and political analyst)


In this episode of On the Ledge, Dave Trafford and guests dig into the political stories and policy debates dominating Ontario politics this week. From personal anecdotes about Catholic schools and long jump memories to a sharp analysis of legislative changes, the group covers a wide spectrum. Key discussions include the controversial provisions of Bill 5 and its potential impact on Indigenous consultation, environmental protection, and development processes in Northern Ontario. They also tackle the reintroduction of the “Honourable” title for former cabinet ministers, and broader concerns around MPP compensation and pensions. The episode wraps with scrutiny of proposed reforms to Ontario’s civil litigation procedures, sparking a wider conversation about access to justice and judicial efficiency.

Chapters:

• 00:00 – Introduction & Personal Anecdotes
  The hosts share stories from school days and family life, setting a warm tone before diving into policy.
• 10:00 – The Honourable Debate
  Discussion on the reintroduction of “The Honourable” for former provincial cabinet ministers and broader issues of public service recognition.
• 22:48 – Constituency Week & The Fallout from Bill 5
  The panel dissects Bill 5’s omnibus approach, concerns from environmental and Indigenous groups, and potential political blowback.
• 48:51 – Changes to Civil Litigation Rules
  The team critiques proposed changes to Ontario’s civil court procedures, focusing on the removal of discovery and access to justice.
• 59:09 – Closing Thoughts
  Reflections on the fiscal outlook, federal-provincial alignment, and hopes for effective implementation of development policy.