One week later, Paul Rodriguez rejoins the podcast for a second conversation. This week, Paul discusses many topics including jiu-jitsu curriculum, the evolution of MMA training, and overtraining. Paul also explains the process he went through in order to be promoted to black belt under Ricardo Liborio, including, how rolling with Liborio went. Paul Rodriguez is the head coach at American Top Team Orlando, a professional MMA fighter, and a third degree black belt under Ricardo Liborio.