On today's episode, Ryan and C.V. talk politics. Have progressives actually been worse for the Black community than republicans? Why do 92% of Black Protestants vote democrat, and 81% of White Evangelicals vote Republican? Listen to find out!

As always, you can follow us on Instagram @ bnwchurch. Also, feel free to reach out to us at [email protected]. We would love to hear from you!

C.V. referenced the “AND Campaign”, a non-profit centered around being for Compassion and Conviction and not getting caught up in the bipartisan binary. You can listen more to them here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-church-politics-podcast/id1289898626

For the video about how each political party came to be in the 21st Century and the disparity between black and white Christians voting, check out this video by Phil Vischer and Skye Jethani - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4eS2E-PoGo

The book mentioned is “The New Jim Crow” by Michelle Alexander and the film mentioned is “A Birth of a Nation”

Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute and Pew Research Center

* All views expressed in this podcast are those of Ryan and C.V. and do not reflect on the organizations, churches, and companies they are a part of *

Theme Music: “Dream Catcher” provided by Kevin MacLeod 

On today's episode, Ryan and C.V. discuss the common phrase “I don’t see color.” Although this phrase is well-intentioned, it often dismisses the lived experiences of people of color. Beyond this, we talk about colorblind Theology which is rooted in a quote from Martin Luther King Jr.

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Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute and  Pew Research Center.

* All views expressed in this podcast are those of Ryan and C.V. and do not reflect on the organizations, churches, and companies they are a part of *

Theme Music: “Dream Catcher” provided by Kevin MacLeod

On today's episode, Ryan and C.V. talk about how relationships are effective in fighting racism, as well as how they might fall short. They get into our overly individualistic lens of racism and show how the Bible talks about a more holistic way of fighting injustice.

As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at [email protected]. We would love to hear from you!

Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute and Pew Research Center.

More stories from the Promise Keepers movement can be found in the book "Jesus and John Wayne" by Kristin Kobes Du Mez

* All views expressed in this podcast are those of Ryan and C.V. and do not reflect on the organizations, churches, and companies they are a part of *

Theme Music: “Dream Catcher” provided by Kevin MacLeod

On today's episode, Ryan and C.V. talk about prayer and the gospel in fighting racism. Are the gospel and prayer our best two tools to fight racism? Is your view of the gospel too small? What about other ways to fight racism?

As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at [email protected]. We would love to hear from you!

Books to look at the historical reality of America and Christianity, see: "The Color of Compromise" by Jemar Tisby, "White Too Long” by Peter Jones, "The Cross and The Lynching Tree" by James Cone, and "Insider Outsider" by Bryan Loritts.

* All views expressed in this podcast are those of Ryan and C.V. and do not reflect on the organizations, churches, and companies they are a part of *

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On today's episode, Ryan and C.V. talk about the reality of racism as a sin issue versus a skin issue. Is one more prominent than the other? Why do we often breathe a sigh of relief at statements like this? Can it be both a skin issue and a sin issue?

As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at [email protected]. We would love to hear from you!

Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute, Lifeway Research, and Pew Research Center

* All views expressed in this podcast are those of Ryan and C.V. and do not reflect on the organizations, churches, and companies they are a part of *

Theme Music: “Dream Catcher” provided by Kevin MacLeod

On today's episode, Ryan and C.V. dive into the reality of racism in our churches. Many would claim to not have racism in their pews, but is this actually the truth?

They also dive into the “White Moderate” and use Billy Graham as an example of this approach to racism in our churches.

As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at [email protected]. We would love to hear from you!

Stories of Billy Graham are from “White Too Long” by Peter Jones, "Jesus and John Wayne" by Kristin Kobes Du Mez, and “The Color of Compromise” by Jemar Tisby

* All views expressed in this podcast are those of Ryan and C.V. and do not reflect on the organizations, churches, and companies they are a part of *

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On today's episode, Ryan and C.V. talk through common sayings Ryan heard growing up in white Church. Phrases like “you don’t really act like a black guy” to “do you get sunburnt?” to even seemingly innocent ones like assuming Ryan loves fried chicken and watermelon. Some of these could be classified as “Microaggressions,” and others as forms of “othering.” 

Regardless, we hope this episode shows you the importance of language in our churches. What we say matters, and that especially matters in terms of race in our churches.

As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at [email protected]. We would love to hear from you!

* All views expressed in this podcast are those of Ryan and C.V. and do not reflect on the organizations, churches, and companies they are a part of *

Theme Music: “Dream Catcher” provided by Kevin MacLeod

On today's episode, Ryan and C.V. dive into the history of Black and White Church. Why are our churches so segregated? Why do we have a black church and a white church? Did this happen naturally or was there things that made this happen? 

As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at [email protected]. We would love to hear from you!

Books mentioned are "The Color of Compromise" by Jemar Tisby and "The Cross and the Lynching Tree" by James Cone. Historical stories referenced by C.V. are from “White Too Long” by Peter Jones.

Statistics are quoted from Public Religion Research Institute, Lifeway Research, and Pew Research Center

* All views expressed in this podcast are those of Ryan and C.V. and do not reflect on the organizations, churches, and companies they are a part of *

Theme Music: “Dream Catcher” provided by Kevin MacLeod

On this episode, Ryan and C.V. introduce the podcast to the world. "Black in White Church" is a podcast centering around Ryan's black and C.V's white experience in white church. This podcast is fundamentally a conversation, not a sermon. Neither Ryan nor C.V. claim to have all the answers, but their experiences and studies might shine some light on the current reality of Black people in White Churches.

Ryan is a High School Pastor at RMCC in Mesa, Arizona. He received his Bachelors of Arts in Christian Studies and a Masters of Science and Leadership from Grand Canyon University, as well as a Masters of Arts coming from Phoenix Seminary in the near future.

C.V. received his Bachelor's of Arts in Biblical Studies and Theology from Biola University as well as a Masters of Arts in Preaching and Pastoral Ministry plus a Masters of Arts in Pastoral Care and Counseling. He is currently helping lead a house church in his neighborhood.

As always, you can follow us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bnwchurch/ . Also, feel free to reach out to us at [email protected]. We would love to hear from you!

* All views expressed in this podcast are those of Ryan and C.V.  and do not reflect on the organizations, churches, and companies they are apart of *

Theme Music: “Dream Catcher” provided by Kevin MacLeod