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In the 45-minute podcast, Andrew Marchand and Bomani Jones have an enlightening conversation about the state of sports media.

One of the goals of this podcast is trying to understand the future of sports media. Jones, who has done new media and old media, was a thoughtful guest and, while he answered about the overall game, he also discussed his internal struggle for what is next for him.

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Here are some of the topics we discussed:

* Jones believes that everything points to sports gambling and the content providers, who can cater to that audience.

* He talks about his career that began as economics major and evolved into shows with HBO and ESPN.

* He muses about working those big rooms and now going back to smaller, more intimate rooms.

* He explained why he doesn’t rip on ESPN, like some others, who have left ESPN. He does wonder about where the new ideas are coming from at the network.

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