Today’s guest has defused bombs in war zones, served undercover for the NYPD, and—most impressive of all—dated me. I sit down with Mark DeSimone, a decorated vet and former cop with a jaw-dropping resume and a history of chaos, courage, and second chances. We talk serving in Iraq, addiction, 9/11, naked arrests (yes, really), and what it’s like to be on both sides of the law. From Mad Dog 2020 to Homeland Security, this episode is as intense as it is unexpectedly hilarious.

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