While Ash looks for a new co-host, we'll be releasing some material that we had banked up! This interview was done on Instagram, so please excuse the poor audio quality, but the content is excellent!

Ashley and former co-host Michelle talk with author, and personal confidant of Caleb McGillvary, aka "Kai the Hatchet-Wielding Hitchhiker", about his book Smash, Smash, Smash: The True Story of Kai the Hitchhiker. Kai's story was intensely misrepresented in the smash (sorry y'all can't help a good pun) hit Netflix documentary, The Hatchet Wielding Hitchhiker.

In our episode we tell the whole story, including Kai's side of it, which was completely left out of the documentary. Philip is here to answer some lingering questions that I think we all had.If you haven't yet listened to our episode on Kai, make sure to go listen to it before you listen to this interview!


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-Audio editing by Malissa Coulson and Jennifer Chen.