Anonymous chaos, gore galore, and the darkest side of the surface web. Ash and Erin tackle online harassment, from 4chan's early days to the Gamergate mess and beyond. Be careful online y'all, it's the goddamn wild west. And don't go to 4chandotcom because it's apparently become a porn site since we recorded 😅 (or maybe it doesn't exist... I'm 38 and autistic and this was recorded 6 months ago!)

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Ash and Kristen dive into the case of Sharon Lapotka: murder, sex, consent, and the dark side of online fantasies. WTF is going on online?! From BDSM to 90s internet rabbit holes... this one is wild!

• LINK TO GOFUNDME AS I AM NOW SURVIVING IN INDONESIA, AFTER ESCAPING THE POLITICAL LANDSCAPE OF 1930'S NAZI GERMANY... OOPS, SORRY, I MEAN 2025 GOOD OL' U.S. OF A!

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-Audio editing by Ryan Truby.

🚨Jax Gratton is currently missing a 34-year-old well known and admired hair stylist in Denver, Colorado🚨

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She went missing on April 15th and was last seen leaving her apartment near the 4200 block of E Iliff Avenue around 10:00PM.  She left with a couple small bags and was wearing striped, paisly patterned pants, a black and white striped shirt and a greenish-gray, blotched coat. She also left behind her medication and her cat, Madame Francesca, which is a big red flag to those who are close to her, according to this PEOPLE Magazine exclusive.

Jax's family and friends are worried for her safety and ask that you please continue to check in to THIS WEBSITE so you know how to best support us in our efforts to Bring Jax Home!

Jax is about 5 feet, 11 inches tall and could have a range of hair colors because she often dyed it (PICS OF FORMER AND LIKELY CURRENT COLOR AS WELL AS TATTOOS ON WEBSITE)

Authorities urge anyone with information about Jax to call 720-913-2000. The TSFU team urges you to share this info as much as possible!

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The usual TSFU content is back in full swing over on Patreon! They're more than TWO weeks ahead- Patrons got episode 175 this week!

In this episode Ash and Kristen give you a little breather from the heavy topics they've had on deck recently - check out the Patreon to see what you've been missing! The gals talk about how the kids in different religions beat around the bush so Jesus doesn't see. Make sure to follow along with the lyrics in this post on our FREE Patreon (must sign up to view)! And watch the music videos in the show notes if you have time, they're hilarious!

• The Loophole by Garfunkel and Oates
• Catholic Girls by Frank Zappa
• Loophole by Noel Miller
• Soakin' USA by Zelph on the Shelf

-Audio editing by Gaytrice Perdue.

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Ash and Erin wrap up the shit show that is The Curious Case of Natalia Grace (TCCoNG) with episodes 3 and 4- The Hell Loop and Breaking the Chains!

S3 E3- The Hell Loop: "Natalia moves in with the DePauls, yet Cynthia and Antwon's grip tightens from afar; Natalia's presence ignites chaos, driving a wedge between Nicole and Vince and pushing Vince to the brink of leaving." - IMDbS3 E4- Breaking the Chains: "Natalia fights to break free from the suffocating grip of her manipulative parents, Cynthia and Antwon; as their deceit unravels, she reclaims her life with a new, loving family." - IMDb


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Ash and research assistant Erin Collins finish recapping the second episode of the FINAL SEASON The Curious Case of Natalia Grace (TCCoNG)!

"Natalia escapes her controlling parents, but she must face a dark past of lies and alleged abuse, uncertain if freedom is truly within reach." - IMDb


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They're BAAA-AACCKKK! And so are we with a re-release on one of the wildest cults we've covered yet!

Have you seen the colorful ads enticing you to come experience "China before Communism" through the art of song and dance at a Shen Yun performance? What about the far-right wing newspaper "The Epoch Times" that preaches misogynistic, racist, homophobic and prejudiced views? They're both owned by the dangerous cult of Falun Gong which Ash tells Caitlyn and Lindsey about this week!

Caitlyn co-hosts PNW Haunts & Homicides, a podcast about true crime, the paranormal, and all kinds of spooky sh*t in the Pacific Northwest! Lindsey is the co-host of Ye Olde Crime, a podcast about spooky, strange, and surreal stories of the past. Support your local indie podcaster and check them both out today, wherever you listen to podcasts!


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-Audio editing by Dallas Hernandez.
-Research by Kristen Jones.
-Sources:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shen_Yun 
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong 
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy 
• https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/4477070-shen-yun-advertises-5000-years-of history-in-dance-why-does-china-call-it-an-anti-society-cult/ 
• https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/12/shen-yun-falun-gong-traditional-chinese-dance troupe-china-doesnt-want-you-to-see 
• https://arbiteronline.com/2023/03/14/a-look-into-the-mysterious-roots-of-shen-yun-is-the-morriso n-center-unknowingly-hosting-a-front-for-a-cult/ 
• https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/cult-shen-yun-dance-troupe/ 
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teachings_of_Falun_Gong#Controversies 
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Springs 
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times
• https://www.cotton.senate.gov/news/press-releases/cotton-coons-colleagues-introduce-bill-to-hold-china-accountable-for-forced-organ-harvesting#:~:text=Experts%20estimate%20that%20the%20human,1.5%20million%20concentration%20camp%20inmates.&text=China%20appears%20to%20be%20the,is%20not%20the%20only%20offender.
• https://humanrightscommission.house.gov/events/hearings/forced-organ-harvesting-china-examining-evidence
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqwNo43p21Y
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAy8AngEZMs

Ash and research assistant Erin Collins recap the first half of the second episode of the FINAL SEASON The Curious Case of Natalia Grace (TCCoNG)!

"Natalia escapes her controlling parents, but she must face a dark past of lies and alleged abuse, uncertain if freedom is truly within reach." - IMDb



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🕸️Edited by: Gaytrice Perdue.

SEASON 3, EP 2 IS ALREADY OUT - COMMERCIAL FREE - ON PATREON, JOIN US FOR AS LITTLE AS $5 A MONTH! YOUR SUPPORT MEANS THE WOOOOORLLLDDDD TO US!

Ash and research assistant Erin Collins recap the FIRST episode of the FINAL SEASON The Curious Case of Natalia Grace (TCCoNG)!

"Desperate to escape her controlling adoptive parents, Natalia turns to Vince and Nicole DePaul, her last hope for freedom." - IMDb


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SEASON 3, EPS 1 AND 2 ALREADY OUT ON PATREON, JOIN US FOR AS LITTLE AS $5 A MONTH! YOUR SUPPORT MEANS THE WOOOOORLLLDDDD TO US!

Season 2 of The Curious Case of Natalia Grace (TCCoNG)- 'Binge or Bust?' episodes 5 and 6 are finally here! Recap of season 3, episode 1 coming out on Friday! Make sure to listen to the episodes below first!

• TRENDING: "The Curious Case of Natalia Grace" is Back- Mega Mix Recap: Ep 1 (part 1)
• TRENDING: "The Curious Case of Natalia Grace" is Back- Mega Mix Recap: Ep 1 (part 2)
• TRENDING: "The Curious Case of Natalia Grace" is Back- Mega Mix Recap: Ep 2

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