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Bonus Episode! Verbal Judo and De-Escalation With Sergeant Patrick O'Donnell


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Welcome to this bonus episode of the Cops and Writers Podcast. 

A little while ago, my good friend Kathleen Donnelley approached me asking if I would give a presentation to the Rocky Mountain Mystery Writers Association regarding Verbal Judo. How can I turn down a good friend and a chance to talk? One minor hitch. I'm not an instructor of Verbal Judo or some kind of Verbal Judo guru. 

After some self-reflection, I recalled the thousands of times myself or other cops on the street used Verbal Judo (or whatever they are calling it today) and I thought I could talk about that.  

Here are some of the talking points.

-Flashbacks to being in the academy in 1995 and receiving Verbal Judo training.
-Props to Dr. George J. Thompson who literally wrote the book, Verbal Judo, Updated Edition: The Gentle Art of Persuasion.
-Attending an eight-hour class given by Dr. Thompson.
-Sometimes you can say things the right way and say the right things, and the incident can go sideways in the blink of an eye.
-People would rather be asked than be told.
-People prefer options over threats.
-The history of law enforcement and de-escalation.
-Some quick and easy ways to avoid fights or confrontations.

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