Four presenters at this summer's NCEA Institute for Catholic School Leaders (ICSL) scheduled for July 15-18 in Los Angeles, join Dr. Tim Uhl on the Catholic School Matters podcast. Jodee Blanco talks about her anti-bullying efforts and her presentation on dealing with difficult people. Dr. Joseph Vorbach explores mission-driven school reform efforts. Professor Jeffrey Hannah of Marian University explains the difference between technical and adaptive leadership. Stacey Vanden Bosch and Lilah Ambrosi explain their efforts to establish dual language programs at Catholic schools. These four presenters highlight their talks and explain why Catholic school leaders should attend the ICSL. #catholicschoolmatters