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Danny and Derek speak with writer and editor David Klion about the collapse of the liberal Zionist project and how the moral and political implication of the Gaza genocide have reshaped  American Jewish identity. They discuss how October 7 and Israel’s assault on Gaza forced a reckoning among liberals who once believed in the two-state promise; the fracturing of institutional life and why so many public figures have avoided accountability;  the generational realignment in American Judaism; legacy news organizations managing and obscuring this shift; x and also Bari Weiss’s rise to CBS and what it tells us about the future of American media.

Read David’s piece in The Nation, “To Those Who Have Just Awakened to the Horrors in Gaza.”

Note: This episode was recorded on October 20, 2025.