It’s not something you expect to hear: A congressional representative from San Diego saying maybe the Navy has too many ships and maybe the defense department’s budget is too big. But that’s something Congresswoman Sara Jacobs will gladly discuss.

As she enters her second term, Jacobs has transitioned from rookie to leadership. The new Congress also brings her new constituents due to redistricting.

In this interview, Jacobs and host Scott Lewis discuss all that, plus the recent dramatic House Speaker vote, abortion access, data protection and homelessness.

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