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In this episode Graeme and Jack are joined by Karen who attended the live event with Will van der Hart on "The Success Entrapment." Together they look back on what Will shared during the episode and discuss some of their thoughts and reflections on it from a Christian and Atheist perspective. 
Everything from treating your mind and your money like a riverbed instead of a lake to whether what Will shared is exclusively a Christian message or just a "decent person" message and how we were all challenged by what he said.

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