Adam thought Io is a weird language, it changed Jason's perspective, and Adam thought the interview with the creator was insightful.

Adam and Jason talk about the benefits of learning new languages, they talk through their experience with Ruby, and discuss their solutions to the challenges in the book.

Adam tells the story of how Ellen got into programming, Jason describes the barriers of the current online courses, Megan talks about the sexism Ellen experienced, and they talk about Y2K and ponder the difference between life and AI.

Adam, Jason, and Megan learn about some of the amazing things AI can do, laugh at the dumb stuff it does sometimes, are a bit disappointed by its limitations, and come out more informed about what to realistically expect going forward.

Jason and Adam talk about working remotely amid a global pandemic. Adam got a standing desk, they agree that is better when everyone is remote, and they talk about having a good setup and routines.

Jason brings up the differences between Apple and Google, Jen talks about taking breaks, and they discuss gender politics.

Adam talks about an awful boss he had, Jen talks about 2 wolves, they talk about rockstars vs superstars, and the radical candor framework.

Jason and Jen interview Adam about Getting Things Done, Jen and Adam talk about bullet journaling, and Jen relates it all to imposter syndrome.

Adam talks about how he has used the book to prepare for interviews, Safia talks about the Microsoft interview process, Jason tells a story about arguing in an interview, and they each talk about a problem they solved.

Jason read Measure What Matters, and Adam and Safia have a bunch of questions about what OKRs are and how they work.