Sarah and Rachel discuss the difference between what it actually looks like to be a leader and what the world has conceptualized as a leader. Coming from a Christian and psychological studies background Rachel and Sarah often discuss topics that land in a grey area. We recognize that these conversations can be intimidating and lined with tension. However, we also recognize discomfort and growth go hand in hand. Come along for the ride as we grow and learn. Find us on Instagram (@Bothand_a_conversation) and join the conversation!

Sarah and Rachel discus the difficulty of transitioning into life's new chapters while also trusting God as we face the unknown. Coming from a Christian and psychological studies background Rachel and Sarah often discuss topics that land in a grey area. We recognize that these conversations can be intimidating and lined with tension. However, we also recognize discomfort and growth go hand in hand. Come along for the ride as we grow and learn. Find us on Instagram (@Bothand_a_conversation) and join the conversation!

Sarah and Rachel discus the tension between using comedy as a coping mechanism, and recognizing the weight and importance of the topic in serious conversations with soul friends when it comes to hard things in life such as mental illness.  Coming from a Christian and psychological studies background Rachel and Sarah often discuss topics that land in a grey area. We recognize that these conversations can be intimidating and lined with tension. However, we also recognize discomfort and growth go hand in hand. Come along for the ride as we grow and learn. Find us on Instagram (@Bothand_a_conversation) and join the conversation!

Rachel and Sarah discuss the tension we find ourselves in when it comes to intimacy in friendships while also keeping healthy boundaries. While we often sit in the discomfort of the "Both And" when it comes to psychology and Christianity, we recognize discomfort and growth go hand in hand. Come along for the ride as we grow and learn.

Introducing the Both And Podcast. Rachel and Sarah discuss their goals for the podcast as well as past lessons and future aspirations. While we often sit in the discomfort of the "Both And" when it comes to psychology and Christianity, we recognize discomfort and growth go hand in hand. Come along for the ride as we grow and learn. Here is the link to Christine Caine at Passion 2020.