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Both Sides Now episodes
- Breakdown of Nicola Willis' interview, petrol prices, COVID-19 Royal Commission and a super rugby update
We begin by reviewing our interview with Nicola Willis. We unpack the growing conflict involving the US, Israel and Iran, and how it’s starting to ripple into everyday life here — particularly through oil prices, petrol costs, and the wider cost of living in Aotearoa.
On the domestic front, we go through the newly released Royal Commission COVID-19 Lessons Learned Phase 2 report.
We also touch on the latest developments surrounding Chris Hipkins and of course give a super rugby update.
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52 min - Hon Nicola Willis on Pay Equity, Mum guilt and how her leadership style compares with Jacinda Ardern
Finance Minister Nicola Willis joins the podcast for a candid conversation about the pressures and priorities of political leadership. From the debate around pay equity to the reality of mum guilt while holding one of the country’s most demanding jobs, Nicola shares how she navigates family, finance, and public scrutiny.
She also reveals the policy she believes every politician should be talking about this year and reflects on how her leadership style compares with Jacinda Ardern’s.
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59 min - 2026 Preview and Predictions
We are back and Eve is joined by a new co-host, Alex Martin.
In this first episode, we share our predictions for the political year ahead and talk through stories and issues we think will shape the months to come. We also outline what we’re planning for the podcast this season and the kinds of conversations we want to have along the way.
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41 min - Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Chris Liddell Speed Round
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4 min - Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Chris Liddell on his time working for Donald Trump, American politics and his work to help New ZealandThis was an epic chat with the kiwi who spent 4 years having daily meetings with the most powerful man in the world. He chats about his time in the White House, politics in the United States and how he's helping to shape the future of New Zealand. Chris has done very little media in New Zealand so don't miss the chance to hear directly from someone who was once the most influential kiwi in the world.
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59 min - 3 min
- New MP James Meager on his proudest achievement, his future goals in politics and his Maiden SpeechThis was an epic chat with new MP James Meager where we chatted about everything from climate change, to the treaty, to what his proudest achievements are outside of politics and the impact his new career will have on his personal life.
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52 min - Eve and Finn share their thoughts on the campaignCatch Eve and Finn sharing how they think the campaign has gone and what we can expect in the coming weeks!
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22 min - 2 min
- Raf Manji on TOP, what the polls don't show about their chances and the current MP who considered making the moveEve and Finn would both agree that theres many things in TOP they would both vote for. This was a great chat where we explored more about who TOP are, what they would bring to Parliament and why voting for them isn't a wasted vote.
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35 min
About Both Sides Now
From the publisher's feed
Both Sides Now was co-founded in 2022 by Eve McCallum and Finn Ross, who could see the increasing polarisation and the decreasing youth engagement in politics. They wanted to show that you could…
disagree politically and still be great mates. The show interviewed a range of high-profile politicians and journalists from across the political spectrum, including 6 Prime Ministers, 4 party leaders and 2 journalists.
The show is back for election year 2026, and with Finn now being based in the UK, Alex Martin is stepping up to fill the left-leaning co-host role. Not only will the show continue its work to break down political polarisation and increase youth engagement, but it will do so with a new focus on women in politics. Eve and Alex have both seen the unfounded, increased vitriol towards female politicians in recent years, and we want to give them a chance to share their stories and educate and inspire other women to step up and become politicians.
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