Bread & Butter

On this episode of the Bread and Butter Podcast, Tayo and Eman sit in Dubai with architect and founder Ryan Sailsman. He breaks down how a boy from Leytonstone ends up designing and building villas for the top one percent in Dubai. Ryan shares how years of moving across London, growing up between working class estates and wealth in central London, and watching his dad build major projects in Dubai shaped his mindset.

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This episode walks you through the rise of FlakeBake and the decisions that shaped one of the strongest growth stories in UK food. Mike shares how he moved from his dad’s takeaway in Peckham to a national rollout with Aldi. You see the early graft. Leaflets. Road deliveries. Late night orders. You learn why B2B changed everything. You see how he built trust with local businesses and why understanding your market gives you an advantage.He explains the impact of the last 5 years on the company and why he was ready to walk away. You hear how a TV show changed the direction of the business and the steps he took before the cameras rolled. Product testing. Data. Packaging. Food scientists. You learn why Aldi listed his product in 1,000 stores and why the launch sold out in hours.You get a real look into his approach to scale. Outsourcing. Team structure. Quality control. Negotiation. Working with manufacturers. Raising visibility through influencers. You hear how he handled setbacks, including unpaid invoices and credit risk.The episode also highlights the role of culture, community and family. You see how his Jamaican heritage shaped the product. You see how his father’s graft shaped his discipline. You see why he supports young entrepreneurs and why he pushes to build pathways for the next generation.If you want to understand growth with limited resources, this gives you a clear blueprint. The lessons here serve anyone building a product, growing a service, or planning to scale.Subscribe, share, and join the Patreon for ad-free episodes, early drops, and live sessions with Tayo & Eman.https://patreon.com/BreadButterPod?utm_medium=unknown&utm_source=join_link&utm_campaign=creatorshare_fan&utm_content=copyLink🎧 Tap in now, and don’t forget to Like, Share & Subscribe!The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more!Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/breadandbutterpodTiktokhttp://www.tiktok.com/@breadandbutterpodSpotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2K5C6kp4dyDQ31NLF2dZBq?si=e363db3263344d09Apple Musichttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bread-butter/id1732266147

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Money changes your lifestyle. The question is whether it changes who you are.

Tayo and Eman sit in Dubai and take this apart with simple, honest reflections. They look at the link between higher earnings and rising confidence. They speak on how easy it is to attach your self worth to your income. Faith sits at the centre of their answer. Faith keeps you steady when your income rises and when it drops. It gives you a view of yourself that money cannot give or take away.

They explore the tension between saving for the future and spending for memories. You hear why choosing one “vice” protects your financial plan. You also hear how life events shift the way you see money. Eman explains why losing his dad pushed him to invest in moments with his family instead of hoarding every pound.

They address how money changes relationships. More money shifts your time, your habits and your friendship circles. It affects dating and marriage. They warn against leading with money, because you start a relationship on the wrong terms. If you create a lifestyle from day one, the bond weakens the moment money slows down.

They speak on the pressure men feel to link identity to income. That pressure harms mental health. It creates highs that feel addictive and lows that feel shameful. Faith and self knowledge give you a base that money cannot shake.

They end with the responsibility to teach children respect, values and a healthy view of money. Wealth without character leads nowhere.

If you feel guilty for spending, scared of losing money, or pressured to appear wealthy, this conversation helps you slow down, think clearly and build a healthier relationship with money.

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From fleeing war in Angola to running one of the last Portuguese restaurants standing in Camden, to launching a cloud kitchen and Airbnbs while raising a son in Dubai. Denise Cabral walks through the grit behind her “overnight success”.

She shares how her parents built from nothing in Portugal and London, why community kept their family restaurant alive, and what it took to relaunch the brand in Dubai after a deal on her UK house fell through.

Tayo and Eman dig into:

• The story behind Otinos, from “Little Portugal” in Camden to Dubai

If you are thinking about moving abroad, opening a food business or juggling motherhood and entrepreneurship, this one speaks straight to you.

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Tayo and Eman sit down with Sandra Igwe, founder and CEO of The Motherhood Group and Black Mums App, for a raw conversation on black motherhood, the NHS, and building a serious social impact business from pain and purpose.

Sandra shares how a traumatic birth, a legal fight with her local trust, and years in law and social enterprise pushed her to build The Motherhood Group. Today her organisation supports thousands of black mums through antenatal and postnatal support, conferences, training, research, and tech, while working with NHS trusts, law firms, and policymakers.

They talk about why black families do not trust institutions, why fear is often a more honest word than trust, and how Sandra became a bridge between the community and services. She breaks down how she went from a WhatsApp group and a “ugly” first flyer to a seven figure organisation, why she says yes then works it out, and why people doing purpose-led work must charge and build structure.

If you care about black maternal health, social impact, money with meaning, or you want to turn your own story into something bigger, this one is for you.

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Tayo and Eman sit in Dubai and look at the UK through fresh eyes. The contrast starts the moment they land. A suite in Business Bay costs less than a budget hotel back home. Service feels intentional. Staff take pride in their work. People move with purpose. You see progress in real time and you feel valued for being there.

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Most people ask “When do I finally enjoy?” We argue you can enjoy now, without wrecking the plan. In this episode we break down seasons of graft (9–12 months), the difference between a one-off treat and an ongoing liability, and why the richer you get, the stricter your guardrails must become. From upgrading a flight as a one-off to saying no to the shiny monthly E-Class payment, we show you how to design enjoyment that doesn’t sabotage momentum. We also get real about delegation (quality dips before it compounds), compliance and insurance as you scale, and building a life where your income fits your lifestyle goals,  not the other way around.

You’ll hear how we manage family-first spending (birthdays planned in advance, school shop days, cinema mornings), why we love time-zone arbitrage (Dubai mornings + UK clients = head start), and how we “industrialise” good habits (home gym, early barbers, calendar blocks). We talk practical finance too: fund the car/holiday from a new income stream, not your main pot; if a car is ~£400/mth, build £100/week first. Plus: values-led money moves (BYD vs Benz, selling Tesla shares), and the mindset shift that keeps your lifestyle from creeping while the business grows.

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Most people are waiting for policy to save them, a new government, a better economy, a miracle. But that wait keeps you broke. In this episode of The Bread & Butter Podcast, Tayo and Eman get real about what it takes to build freedom in the UK right now. From turning £10K into real leverage to structuring your income between the UK and Dubai, this is the blueprint for keeping more of what you earn and using it wisely.

They break down how salaries have barely moved in 20 years, why side hustles now beat promotions, and how smart use of ISAs, pensions, and business structures can create options instead of stress. Eman explains how splitting income between the UK’s allowances and Dubai’s 9% corporation tax created an “instant pay rise.” It’s not about escaping the system, it’s about learning how to play it better.

Beyond the numbers, this episode is about balance, family, faith, and focus. Tayo opens up about building platforms with his wife and staying grounded in marriage and fatherhood. Eman reflects on parenting wins, the realities of visibility, and learning to protect your peace as your success grows. The message is clear: nobody’s coming to save you. You have to move faster than policy, think beyond comfort, and design a life that gives you freedom, not just a payslip.

If you’ve ever said “I just need a plan,” this is it. Practical money moves, side hustle strategy, and a mindset reset, all in one conversation.

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Everyone loves the glam side of business, the cars, the followers, the “I just bought another company” moments.

In this episode, we sit down with Tej Talks, the entrepreneur behind an £80K-a-month cleaning business, to break down what it actually takes to buy and grow companies, often without spending your own money.

From the reality of buying a business for £50K and turning it into £250K in revenue, to why most people lose money because they refuse to spend £200 on advice, this is one of the most honest business conversations online.

We also talk about:

If you’ve ever said “I want to buy a business” after watching a TikTok — watch this first.

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The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more!

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Men fear marriage will cost them everything. We argue the opposite: with the right person, marriage is protection, growth, and focus. The danger isn’t commitment, it’s confusing performance for partnership. Wedding inflation and viral proposals can seduce you into spending for comments instead of building for your future. That’s because social media isn’t “just social” social media is media, and if you let it set your standards, it will also set your debts. The antidote is selection and standards: choose before you “blow,” when character is loudest and the crowd is quietest. Pick independence, shared values, resilience and a pace of life that fits your pockets, not the internet’s highlight reel.

Protection starts with who you build with and who can challenge you. Accountability circles matter because love can make smart people move mad; you need brethren who will pull you back to sense. Inside the relationship, love languages have to land in real life, consistency, listening and follow-through beat grand gestures that don’t speak to your partner’s heart. When you align values, habits and goals, stability shows up. Stability creates focus, focus compounds into results, one reason so many high earners and owners are married. If you’ve ever asked, “How do I protect myself?” start by protecting your selection. Build with someone who was already building, so when life swings, your household doesn’t. And if this conversation helps you think clearer and choose better, plug into the community for ad-free episodes, live backchat, and bonus game from our guests. The pod is free; the mission isn’t, your support lets us keep turning wisdom into wins.

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The Bread and Butter by Emmanuel Asuquo & Tayo Oguntonade is not your typical finance or business podcast, it explores real-life stories of how money plays a part in our day-to-day life - with no boundaries, no secrets and no censorship. In each episode we invite you to be a fly in the room when we discuss money taboos, key financial advice and some of the hottest money topics online, often with well-known guests from influencers, athletes to musicians. Together we discuss money in a super relatable way, talk about the impacts it's had on their journey and the role it plays today. Topics will revolve around how money plays a part in parenting, living and working abroad, entrepreneurship and content creation & more!

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