Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing

As we take a brief end-of-year pause for CyberMarketingCon and holiday chaos, we’re bringing back one of 2025’s most replayed and requested episodes. Consider this your chance to revisit the insights you loved or catch an episode you might’ve missed.

This week, we’ve got an extra special guest, Joe Aurilia, Jr., SVP of Operations at Cyware. Joining Gianna and Maria to talk more about the art of scaling, automating, and just plain getting stuff done. Joe takes us on a ride from being Cyware’s first U.S. hire (aka "the guinea pig") to building and overseeing every corner of operations from legal and IT to rev ops and marketing ops. 

We chat about how to spot and fix the messiest processes, why RevOps is the unsung hero of the GTM engine, and what happens when contracts, people, and data collide. Joe also drops gems on internal sales/marketing for change management, and we close out with his dream career as an ice cream shop owner.

Plus: purple dashboards, auctioneer aspirations, and a serious stance on free sprinkles.

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As we take a brief end-of-year pause for CyberMarketingCon and holiday chaos, we’re bringing back one of 2025’s most replayed and requested episodes. Consider this your chance to revisit the insights you loved or catch an episode you might’ve missed.

Tom Wentworth, CMO at Incident.io, got tired of doing the same stuff over and over, so he built AI agents to do it for him. Sales call summaries? Automated. Blog posts from discovery calls? Done in minutes. Battle cards? They update themselves.

He’s wiring together Slack, Notion, Zapier, Gong, and ChatGPT in ways that help his team move faster without adding headcount or complexity. There are no big declarations, just real systems that save time and don’t annoy people.

We talk about what’s working, what’s breaking, and how far you can push things without sounding like a robot. Also: cold plunges, prompt rage, and the Notion doc that’s 90 pages long.

🎧 Press play to hear how Tom stretches modern marketing ops with the right automation setup.

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About Tom:

Tom is a high-growth SaaS marketing leader with experience across enterprise GTM and product-led models. He writes occasionally about tech marketing at⁠ tomwentworth.com⁠ and previously hosted the Scaleup Marketing podcast.

Follow Tom on ⁠LinkedIn⁠

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As we take a brief end-of-year pause for CyberMarketingCon and holiday chaos, we’re bringing back one of 2025’s most replayed and requested episodes. Consider this your chance to revisit the insights you loved or catch an episode you might’ve missed.

Episode Summary:

What do VCs think about your GTM strategy? This week, Gianna and Maria chat with Asad Khaliq and Mark Kraynak, two of Acrew Capital's founding members, about what it takes to build or break a go-to-market motion at an early-stage cyber startup.

Asad and Mark share how Acrew was founded, why they’re so focused on cyber and data, and what they’ve learned from backing some of the most well-known names in the industry. From hiring your first salesperson to avoiding “we stop threats” messaging, they’ve seen it all and they’re sharing the good, the bad, and the surprisingly funny.

About the guest: 

Follow Asad on LinkedIn.

Follow Mark on LinkedIn. 

Follow Acrew Capital on LinkedIn or the website. 

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Episode Summary:

We’re back in Las Vegas for Part 2 of our live series from the ManageEngine User Conference, this time shifting from the conference floor to the hallways, lobby couches, and those slightly delirious late-night conversations fueled entirely by hotel coffee.

Part 1 focused on how ManageEngine builds trust from the inside. Part 2 flips the perspective outward, bringing in three very different voices: an AI governance advisor, an innovation leader, and a veteran tech journalist, all wrestling with how AI, security, and trust are colliding across the industry.

It’s a grounded, candid look at what people are really thinking about AI right now, far beyond the keynote slides and vendor hype.

(And yes, all three guests happen to be named Alex. I promise we didn’t plan that.)

Have a listen — this one hits a different part of the conversation.

About Guests: 

Alex Sharpe — Board Advisor & Cyber Governance Expert (Sharpe LLC)

Alex Goryachev — WSJ Bestselling Author & AI Innovation Exec

Alex Williams — Founder & Publisher, The New Stack

Alex is a veteran tech journalist and the founder of The New Stack, where he covers how modern software gets built and operated at scale. Before that, he wrote about cloud and enterprise tech at ReadWriteWeb and TechCrunch.

🔗 Links & Resources:

Attend the ManageEngine User Conference

Alex Goryachev — AI & innovation keynote site: https://alexgoryachev.com 

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Episode Summary:

We took the podcast on the road for this one. Gianna spent two days roaming the ManageEngine User Conference in Las Vegas,  mic in hand, slightly over-caffeinated, talking with the people who actually keep this massive IT management ecosystem running.

This episode brings together conversations with the CMO, the team leading North America operations and partnerships, and one of ManageEngine’s longtime global channel partners. Different roles, different vantage points, but everyone came back to the same theme: trust. Not the buzzword version, the real kind, where meeting someone face-to-face finally puts a human behind the support ticket.

And yes, Part 2 is on the way. We’ve got more interviews from the conference floor, including late-night influencer conversations and a studio-recorded session with the VP of Product. Think of this episode as the first half of the full story.

About Guests: 

Ajay Kumar — Head of Global Marketing, ManageEngine (a division of Zoho Corp.)
Ajay leads global marketing across the entire ManageEngine portfolio.

Haja Moideen — Head of North America Business, Operations & Strategic Channel Partnerships; Official Spokesperson for ManageEngine
Haja runs the operations and partner ecosystem across the U.S. and Canada.

Mohamed Abdelhay — Co-Founder & Business Development Director, SanaTech Global Solutions (ManageEngine Partner)
Mohamed has been deploying, integrating, and selling ManageEngine products for well over a decade. He started in Egypt, grew his customer base one implementation at a time, and now runs SanaTech’s business development efforts from Los Angeles.

🔗 Links & Resources:

ManageEngine User Conference (Las Vegas)
ManageEngine product documents — full list of features, use cases, and technical specs. 

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Meet us at CyberMarketingCon 2025!

Want to level up your cybersecurity marketing? Join us Dec 7–10 in Austin, TX, for four days of zero-fluff workshops, real-deal networking, and maybe the best BBQ meetup you’ll ever have.

👉 Snag your ticket now!

See you in Austin, where the insights and vibes are hotter.

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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing. You can join the Cybersecurity Marketing Society on our website, our main LinkedIn page, our Instagram page, or our podcast LinkedIn page. 

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Episode Summary:

This week, we’re sharing a special crossover episode originally recorded for ITSP Magazine. Gianna and Maria join hosts Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli for an on-location conversation about how the Cybersecurity Marketing Society got started, why our industry’s buyers behave the way they do, and what makes cybersecurity marketing fundamentally different from every other field.

They discuss trust, burnout, AI buzzwords, why buyers dislike being sold to, and how marketing teams can effectively demonstrate value in a saturated, hyper-technical market. You’ll also hear what to expect at CyberMarketingCon 2025, from hands-on AI workshops to a marketer-only CTF, and why the event has become a reunion for practitioners across the ecosystem.

If you want a grounded conversation about real marketing challenges (minus the fluffy vendor vibes), this one’s worth your time.

About Sean and Marco:

Sean Martin, CISSP, is Co-Founder and Editor-in-Chief at ITSP Magazine, a multimedia platform exploring the intersection of technology, cybersecurity, and society. He hosts their “On Location” podcast series and several other shows, blending deep cybersecurity insights with human-scale storytelling.

Marco Ciappelli is Co-Founder and Creative Director at ITSP Magazine, host of its podcasts, and lead for their “At the Intersection” story platform. He brings branding, media, and societal insight to the conversation about cybersecurity’s broader role.

🔗 Links & Resources:

ITSP Magazine 

ITSP Magazine On-Location Podcast Series 

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Meet us at CyberMarketingCon 2025!

Want to level up your cybersecurity marketing? Join us Dec 7–10 in Austin, TX, for four days of zero-fluff workshops, real-deal networking, and maybe the best BBQ meetup you’ll ever have.

👉 Snag your ticket now!

See you in Austin, where the insights and vibes are hotter.

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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing. You can join the Cybersecurity Marketing Society on our website, our main LinkedIn page, our Instagram page, or our podcast LinkedIn page. 

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Episode Summary:

Gianna sits down and talks with Adam Vincent, founder and CEO of Bricklayer AI, about selling first and letting the market shape your message. After bootstrapping and shipping an MVP in summer 2023, Adam called (literally phone called) his way into product clarity and pipeline, then watched curiosity turn into urgency in Q2 2025. They get practical on where agents help today, so security teams finally use the tools they already pay for.

You’ll hear:

If you’re looking for buyer-tested phrasing, three practical agent workflows, and a simple outreach pattern you can run tomorrow, this episode is for you.

About Adam:

Adam Vincent is the Founder and CEO of Bricklayer AI. He’s spent his career building software that helps security analysts do their jobs better and has worn the hats: QA, engineering, and CTO. Early at Layer 7 Technologies, he built the federal practice across sales, marketing, and tech. 

In his last startup, he says the team grew revenue from zero to $30M ARR. He founded Bricklayer AI, bootstrapped for about a year, launched an MVP in summer 2023, and runs founder-led sales while standing up marketing and sales leadership.

Follow Adam on LinkedIn

🔗 Links & Resources:

Bricklayer AI 

ThreatConnect 

Layer 7 (now Broadcom Layer7 API Management)

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Meet us at CyberMarketingCon 2025!

Want to level up your cybersecurity marketing? Join us Dec 7–10 in Austin, TX, for four days of zero-fluff workshops, real-deal networking, and maybe the best BBQ meetup you’ll ever have.

👉 Snag your ticket now!

See you in Austin, where the insights and vibes are hotter.

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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing. You can join the Cybersecurity Marketing Society on our website, main LinkedIn page, Instagram page, or podcast LinkedIn page. 

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Episode Summary:

We’re back with another round of Cyber CMO Confidential, where Gianna and Charles ask the questions every cybersecurity marketer wishes they could ask their CMO.

This time, Karl Van den Bergh, Illumio’s CMO, shares why he dropped the “ing” and became a Chief Market Officer. He unpacks Illumio’s shift from zero trust segmentation to breach containment, the fine line between AI innovation and AI nonsense, and why marketers need to stop selling and start representing the market.

🎧 Listen to the full episode for Karl’s take on authenticity, AI hype, and what it really means to market the market.

About Karl: 

Karl Van den Bergh is the Chief Market Officer at Illumio, where he leads global marketing for the company’s breach containment and Zero Trust Segmentation platform. With over two decades in enterprise software and cybersecurity, he’s known for transforming complex technology brands into clear, market-driven stories.

Before joining Illumio, Karl served as CMO at Gigamon and DataStax, where he helped reposition both companies for modern, security-focused growth. His work centers on connecting product strategy to real market needs and building brands that lead with clarity, not jargon.

Follow Karl on LinkedIn. 

🔗 Links & Resources:

Illumio – Learn more about the company’s breach containment and Zero Trust Segmentation platform.

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👉 Enjoyed this one? Drop us a quick ⭐ rating or review, it helps more cyber marketers find the show.

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Meet us at CyberMarketingCon 2025!

Want to level up your cybersecurity marketing? Join us Dec 7–10 in Austin, TX, for four days of zero-fluff workshops, real-deal networking, and maybe the best BBQ meetup you’ll ever have.

👉 Snag your ticket now!

See you in Austin, where the insights and vibes are hotter.

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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing. You can join the Cybersecurity Marketing Society on our website, main LinkedIn page, Instagram page, or podcast LinkedIn page. 

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Episode Summary:

Gianna and Maria take a break from guest interviews to share what’s ahead at CyberMarketingCon 2025, coming December 7–10 in Austin, TX, and streaming online. From building your first AI agent or tackling a marketer’s CTF, to designing sharper content in Canva, this year’s workshops go hands-on fast.

They walk through new summits for CMOs, founders, and sales teams, introduce fresh AI-driven sponsors, and preview Austin’s most unexpected highlight, a cybersecurity-themed wrestling show. It’s a glimpse at how the community keeps growing, connecting, and having fun.

👉 Listen to the full episode for insider updates, practical tips, and a few behind-the-scenes laughs from the team bringing CyberMarketingCon to life.

About the hosts:

Gianna Whitver and Maria Velasquez are the co-founders of the Cybersecurity Marketing Society and organizers of CyberMarketingCon, the annual conference for security marketers, founders, and GTM leaders to connect, learn, and grow together.

Meet us at CyberMarketingCon 2025!

Want to level up your cybersecurity marketing? Join us Dec 7–10 in Austin, TX, for four days of zero-fluff workshops, real-deal networking, and maybe the best BBQ meetup you’ll ever have.

👉 Snag your ticket now!

See you in Austin, where the insights and vibes are hotter.

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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing. You can join the Cybersecurity Marketing Society on our website, main LinkedIn page, Instagram page, or podcast LinkedIn page. 

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Episode Summary:

Most marketers learn executive communication the hard way. Rob Sobers, CMO at Varonis, joins Gianna and Charles to share what he’s figured out along the way, how to lead with the answer, give data real context, and know when to stop talking.

He explains how to tailor communication for CEOs, boards, and peers, and why too much detail can make you sound less senior, not more informed. The conversation also covers the habits that build trust over time: using templates for consistency, setting clear values so teams can move without micromanagement, and preparing for the “most obvious objections” before they’re raised.

👉 Listen to the full episode for practical examples, career lessons, and Rob’s take on the one buzzword he’d retire from cybersecurity marketing for good.

About Rob:

Rob Sobers is the Chief Marketing Officer at Varonis, a leader in data security. He began his career as a software engineer before moving into marketing, giving him a unique perspective on how technical and business teams communicate. At Varonis, Rob leads global marketing strategy and focuses on helping organizations understand and reduce data risk.

He’s also the co-author of Learn Ruby the Hard Way and a longtime advocate for practical, transparent communication inside complex organizations.

Follow Rob Sobers on LinkedIn

🔗 Links & Resources:

Varonis: varonis.com

Dave Kellogg’s Blog (Kellblog): kellblog.com

Carilu Dietrich’s Post on Executive Communication: LinkedIn article 

Elevate Your Marketing Dashboard: How to Impress the CEO, CRO, and CFO — Carilu Dietrich (Substack)

Wes Kao’s “15 Principles for Managing Up”: weskao.com 

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Meet us at CyberMarketingCon 2025!

Want to level up your cybersecurity marketing? Join us Dec 7–10 in Austin, TX, for four days of zero-fluff workshops, real-deal networking, and maybe the best BBQ meetup you’ll ever have.

👉 Snag your ticket now!

See you in Austin, where the insights and vibes are hotter.

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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing. You can join the Cybersecurity Marketing Society on our website, main LinkedIn page, Instagram page, or podcast LinkedIn page. 

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