One of the most difficult tensions in conversations about healing, mental health, and spiritual growth is learning how to hold two things at the same time: compassion for what's real and responsibility for what's within our control.

In this episode, Whit sits down with Jamie Jobe and Valerie Isaacs, a licensed professional counselor supervisor, reflective consultant, and mental health trainer.

Jamie shares openly from her own journey with depression, Valerie brings language to the patterns that shape us long before we realize they're there, and Whit grounds the conversation in the truth of Scripture. Together, they offer a framework for how we talk about "breakthrough" without minimizing pain or avoiding accountability.

Show notes:

Check out Pastor Whit George's Message | Do You Want to Be Healed? https://youtu.be/Lh9_BKXpKqc Check out the Life in Motion episode with Valerie Isaacs: Parenting From a Secure Place: Attachment, Repair, and Abiding in Jesus https://churchonthemove.com/parentingfromasecureplace

Check out this Life in Motion on Counseling: What To Expect and When To Go

https://churchonthemove.com/lifeinmotion-counseling

In this episode, Whit mentions the following books:

• Spiritual Depression by Mark Lloyd Jones
• The Great Divorce by CS Lewis

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