Breastfeeding Talk

Breastfeeding Talk

By Jacqueline Kincer, IBCLC, CSOMMedicineHealth & FitnessParentingKids & Family
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Breastfeeding Talk episodes

  • Infant Oral Development with Kelsey Baker

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    In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Kelsey Baker, a Pediatric Occupational Therapist specializing in infant oral development. Jacqueline and Kelsey cover infant feeding, breastfeeding, oral ties, pacifiers and cups, and so much more.

    Kelsey is a mom of 2 and uses her personal and professional experience to help families reach their feeding goals and tries to set babies up for lifelong health. This episode explores the first-year milestones from an occupational therapist’s point of view. 

    In this episode, you’ll hear:

    • Kelsey’s journey, how she got started in occupational therapy, and what exactly is an OT
    • What occupational therapists look for when they assess your infant and some things to look out for in development
    • How ties affect the entire body and why you want to get them assessed.
    • Tips on teething and starting solids from an OT view
    • Which cups, pacifiers, and bottles are best and which are not recommended

    A glance at this episode:

    • [1:50] Kelsey shares her journey with breastfeeding and how she got started in oral development for infants
    • [5:46] What an occupational therapist is and how they are different from physical therapists
    • [8:36] Some things that Kelsey assesses in an infant as an OT
    • [12:20] How to go about getting support if you start to notice anything off with your infant and some key things to look out for
    • [17:25] How ties affect the rest of the body
    • [20:42] What’s exactly involved in a tie
    • [23:10] Some considerations when teething and starting solids
    • [25:10] Foods that tend to be easier for toddlers
    • [28:06] How babies with ties use bottles and transition to straw cups
    • [30:20] Kelsey’s view on some not-so-favorite bottles
    • [33:22] How crawling is related to reading
    • [38:32] Parents will sometimes realize through their infant why their ailments have arisen, or why a sibling has a certain ailment
    • [39:15] Kelsey’s view on pacifiers
    • [45:34] Why do we want to transition to cup feeding as early as 6 months
    • [48:06] Why an OT doesn’t want you using sippy cups
    • [52:38] Kelsey’s advice for the first year and some tips

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    • Kelsey’s Website
    • Kelsey’s Instagram
    • Holistic Lactation Website
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    • Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/holisticlactation
    • Access group support & our courses at https://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collective
    • Get 1:1 expert lactation help at https://holisticlactation.com/clinic

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    56 min
  • Finding Balance in Life and Motherhood with Annia Palacios

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    In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Annia Palacios, a mental health therapist and coach who has transformed her therapy practice into working with mothers. Powered by her own battles with postpartum depression, Annia shares her tips and tricks to better understand your own self through motherhood. 

    Jacqueline and Annia have an intimate conversation about mental health, postpartum depression, anxiety, and how to keep your identity throughout motherhood. Annia shares how to set boundaries and communicate with your family and close friends. She also highlights the importance of a community.

    Annia is offering listeners $100 off a coaching package. You’ll receive five 1:1 coaching sessions you can use individually or with your partner: whether you want to help prepare for parenthood as expecting parents, or you want support in tackling issues in parenting like mom rage, overstimulation, and finding balance. Contact Annia and let her know you heard her on the podcast to apply your discount.

    In this episode, you’ll hear:

    • How to tell the difference between having the baby blues or postpartum depression
    • How to connect with your partner and close friends through motherhood
    • Why having a community is beneficial through all stages of pregnancy and motherhood
    • Tips to navigate postpartum anxiety
    • How to keep your identity throughout motherhood 

    A glance at this episode:

    • [3:42] Annia introduces herself and what she does
    • [5:18] Moms using social media to normalize motherhood 
    • [7:00] How the pandemic has affected motherhood
    • [8:22] Annia’s view on how to keep your identity when you become a mom
    • [10:57] Jacqueline’s experience with her identity after becoming a mom
    • [12:20] How to shift from an impossible mindset to move forward
    • [15:07] The difference between baby blues, postpartum depression, and postpartum anxiety
    • [22:00] What high-functioning anxiety means
    • [23:34] How this anxiety affects others around the mom and how they can be supportive
    • [25:47] How moms can communicate their needs to their partners and family
    • [34:22] Why your relationship with your partner changes from pregnancy to motherhood 
    • [37:25] Making adjustments to connect with your partner again
    • [43:59] How to navigate the changing relationships that are closest to us
    • [47:23] How important community is as a new mom 

    Related Links:

    • Annia’s Practice
    • Annia’s Coaching
    • Annia’s TikTok - @TightRopeThera

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    • Save on our supplements using code PODCAST15 at https://holisticlactation.com/products
    • Shop on Amazon
    • Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/holisticlactation
    • Access group support & our courses at https://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collective
    • Get 1:1 expert lactation help at https://holisticlactation.com/clinic

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    58 min
  • What Stops Women From Breastfeeding

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    In this episode, Jacqueline reviews some common reasons that keep women from breastfeeding. Moms are feeling an immense amount of pressure from society to breastfeed, but there’s a huge lack of support and knowledge around the topic. Even formula marketing pushes new moms to supplement when not needed.

    Jacqueline addresses these issues head-on and provides some amazing insight on how to battle these obstacles and where to seek support.

    In this episode, you’ll hear:

    ● How societal norms are causing more and more women to not breastfeed

    ● Differences between actual low milk supply and perceived low milk supply

    ● Why the healthcare system is failing new moms

    ● Why it’s so hard for working moms to keep up their supply


    A glance at this episode:

    ● [2:47] How society norms are getting in the way of breastfeeding past one year

    ● [4:37] When a mom expresses difficulty with breastfeeding, she’s often pressured to give up with no regard to how she feels

    ● [9:03] The difference between perceived low milk supply and an actual low milk supply

    ● [10:16] Some reasons why a mom would think she had low milk supply

    ● [11:50] How perceived low milk supply can mentally ruin your supply

    ● [13:00] Jacqueline talks about the effects of formula marketing for breastfeeding mothers

    ● [16:35] Parental leave is causing women to go back to work sooner making it really hard for them to manage a good pumping schedule and supply

    ● [20:07] There are numerous obstacles in and around the healthcare system that make it almost impossible for a new mother to meet her breastfeeding goals

    ● [27:47] Jacqueline’s advice and words of encouragement


    Related Links:

    • Episode 80: Mom Journey: Navigating New Motherhood with Sarah Hollingsworth
    • Episode 78: Low Milk Supply: True or False?
    • Episode 50: Baby Formula, Is It Bad? 
    • Holistic Lactation Website
    • Follow on Instagram
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    • Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/holisticlactation
    • Access group support & our courses at https://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collective
    • Get 1:1 expert lactation help at https://holisticlactation.com/clinic

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    40 min
  • This Week In Breastfeeding

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    In this episode, Jacqueline shares some of the latest breastfeeding news articles. She breaks them down to relay the information and facts and then she shares her perspective about each article. These articles address things like mental health, anxiety around breastfeeding, inducing lactation, and Kylie Jenner’s lactation mishap. 

    In this episode, you’ll hear:

    • Some of the latest breastfeeding articles that are circling the web
    • What avenues you have as a breastfeeding mother for support in your journey
    • Why more moms are turning to breastfeeding 

    A glance at this episode:

    • [2:56] That the newest Holistic Lactation supplement has launched and is ready for purchase
    • [4:03] Jacqueline discusses a recent hot topic about transgender people lactating
    • [9:40] Kylie Jenner has a lactation mishap and Jacqueline covers the story
    • [12:25] Jacqueline addresses the formula vs. breastfeeding war and shares an article about taking the pressure off while feeding your baby
    • [18:22] Jacqueline shares a study of mental health benefits of breastfeeding
    • [24:42] Jacqueline debunks a North Carolina news article claiming that moms are more ‘anxious’ about breastfeeding

    Related Links:

    • Transgender Lactation Article
    • Kylie Jenner’s Lactating Mishap
    • North Carolina Article 
    • Mental Health Benefits of Breastfeeding Article
    • Parents Feel Pressure Article
    • Holistic Lactation Website
    • Discount on Products Use Code ‘PODCAST15’
    • Follow on Instagram
    • Book an Appointment
    • 🍼 If you are truly struggling with breastmilk production, check out our Advanced Lactation Formula supplement or consider booking a Low Milk Supply Consultation or Pumping Consultation with us
    • 🤱If you are experiencing clogged ducts, engorgement or mastitis, check out our Lactation Flow Formula supplement or consider booking a General Breastfeeding Consultation with us
    • 📚 Looking for more trusted knowledge and a deep dive on how to know what’s what with breastfeeding and how to overcome problems? Check out our support community The Nurture Collective®
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    • Save on our supplements using code PODCAST15 at https://holisticlactation.com/products
    • Shop on Amazon
    • Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/holisticlactation
    • Access group support & our courses at https://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collective
    • Get 1:1 expert lactation help at https://holisticlactation.com/clinic

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    33 min
  • The Nuances of Pumping & Tips for Success

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    In this episode, Jacqueline addresses the nuances of pumping and shares some of her best tips for a successful pumping journey. Through Jacqueline’s experience and collaboration with other IBCLCs, she brings you the facts and knowledge of just how challenging pumping can be, and how to have a successful pumping experience. 

    Jacqueline shares these tips with you to empower you, encourage you, and let you know that you’re doing the best you can.

    If you’ve been struggling on your pumping journey this episode will provide some amazing tips and tricks to stay motivated while pumping, along with some suggestions on how to find the best pumping supplies. 

    In this episode, you’ll hear:

    • How mindset can affect your milk supply & keeping a positive perspective
    • Why having the correct flange size is crucial to your pumping journey, and how to properly fit for your sizing
    • How to choose a breast pump that is right for you 
    • Pumping supplies that Jacqueline recommends
    • Jacqueline’s best tips for a successful pumping journey

    A glance at this episode:

    • [3:59] Mindset around pumping and why you should create a pumping plan
    • [6:41] Jacqueline describes silicone breast pumps and how they differ from a regular breast pump
    • [9:14] Why some might experience better results with a manual breast pump
    • [11:04] Different types of electric breast pumps and how to determine what’s best for you
    • [12:06] Why it is important that you get the correct flange size and how to find your size
    • [20:33] Jacqueline shares tips on how to stay motivated while pumping
    • [23:30] Jacqueline’s recommendations on what to buy for optimal pumping success
    • [25:54] Why lactation needs to be addressed when pumping
    • [27:18] What triple feeding is and when to stop
    • [29:05] Special features on pumps that you probably don’t need
    • [33:15] How to get the most out of what your insurance provides
    • [40:15] Jacqueline shares a quick story of how flange size can affect your milk output

    Related Links:

    • Pumpables Discount: 10% Off with Coupon Code SHOP10-HLACTATION
    • Pumpables Instagram
    • Jacqueline’s ‘4 Easy Steps to Using the Haakaa Pump’ Video
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    • Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/holisticlactation
    • Access group support & our courses at https://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collective
    • Get 1:1 expert lactation help at https://holisticlactation.com/clinic

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    49 min
  • Food Allergies & Breastfeeding w/ Dr. Dave Stukus

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    In this episode, Jacqueline is joined by Dr. David Stukus to talk about common misconceptions when it comes to infants and allergies. Dr. Stukus is a Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Allergy/Immunology at Nationwide Children's Hospital and The Ohio State University College of Medicine. He is a member of the Board of Regents for the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology, the Social Media Editor and host of the podcast series for the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology, and is one of twelve invited members for the Joint Task Force for Practice Parameters for Allergy/Immunology.

    This episode covers everything from baby acne, eczema, rashes, colic, reflux and poop issues. Dr. Dave Stukus discusses where peanut allergies, food allergies and food intolerances stem from and how to prevent them. He also talks about celiac disease, introducing solid foods, lactose intolerance and cow's milk protein issues.

    If you’ve ever thought that your infant had an allergy or food intolerance, this is an incredibly enlightening episode. Jacqueline and Dr. Stukus talk about the infant immune system, specialty infant formulas, and so much more! Dr. Stukus gives some great resources on where to find local certified allergists, and what allergy testing is available to infants. 

    In this episode, you’ll hear:

    • Misconceptions around allergies and food intolerances
    • All about peanut allergies, milk protein allergies/intolerance, lactose intolerance, and celiac disease
    • The true causes of colic, reflux, skin issues such as rashes and eczema, and more
    • Resources available to you & your baby if you suspect food issues
    • How to introduce solid foods, including which types of food and when to introduce them
    • How the infant immune system develops & works

    A glance at this episode:

    • [3:44] Dr. Dave Stukus shares his background 
    • [6:50] Myths and misconceptions with allergies and breastfeeding
    • [10:34] Infant maturation and development of the immune system
    • [13:11] What’s really the cause behind baby acne
    • [15:46] What’s going on in baby’s digestive system in the first few days of life
    • [19:52] Dr. Dave Stukus reviews the variations of stools in infants
    • [23:34] Misconceptions around intolerance vs. tolerance
    • [28:49] Ideal timing for introducing solid foods when talking about the infant digestive system and allergies
    • [34:10] Common misconceptions and what causes eczema
    • [38:29] What kind of testing is available for infants for allergies
    • [44:40] Treatments available for eczema and why moms are hesitant to use steroid

    Support the show

    More from Holistic Lactation:

    • Save on our supplements using code PODCAST15 at https://holisticlactation.com/products
    • Shop on Amazon
    • Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/holisticlactation
    • Access group support & our courses at https://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collective
    • Get 1:1 expert lactation help at https://holisticlactation.com/clinic

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    1 hr 15 min
  • Birth & Preparing for Breastfeeding

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    In today’s episode, Jacqueline is joined by Stephanie King. Stephanie is passionate about empowering women through knowledge to trust in their bodies and the process of birth. Stephanie is a mom of 3 all born very differently, plus a bonus girl. She's a professional childbirth educator, doula, and host of the Pregnancy and Birth Made Easy podcast and creator of the online course My Essential Birth.

    Stephanie shares how her personal experiences paved her path into birth work and how she supports women today. She shares about her birth course, what informed consent looks like, and a sneak peek into her postpartum course. Stephanie reveals all 3 of her births and how they are significantly different, but all led her to the path she’s on now. She talks about having a supportive community, how to choose one, where to find one, and much much more. 

    In today's show, we discuss:

    • Stephanie’s births and how she got started in birth work
    • From your birth plan to postpartum and breastfeeding
    • Informed consent
    • How Stephanie works with her clients and how you can find her
    • Finding an intentional community

    A Glance at This Episode:

    • [2:27] How Stephanie got started in birth work
    • [7:03] Why people seek out Stephanie and where one would get started
    • [11:17] How planning your birth impacts postpartum and breastfeeding
    • [21:33] What is informed consent
    • [30:22] How Stephanie works postpartum and breastfeeding with her clients
    • [43:25] Finding an intentional supporting community and having a support system of like-minded people who have been through similar situations

    Related Links:

    • Pregnancy & Birth Made Easy Podcast
    • My Essential Birth Course
    • My Essential Birth Website
    • Holistic Lactation Website
    • Follow on Instagram
    • The Nurture Collective
    • Our Advanced Lactation Formula supplement for naturally increasing & sustaining milk supply

    Support the show

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    • Save on our supplements using code PODCAST15 at https://holisticlactation.com/products
    • Shop on Amazon
    • Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/holisticlactation
    • Access group support & our courses at https://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collective
    • Get 1:1 expert lactation help at https://holisticlactation.com/clinic

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    53 min
  • Mom Journey: Navigating New Motherhood with Sarah Hollingsworth

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    In today’s episode, Jacqueline is joined by Sarah Hollingsworth, Founder & CEO of Poppylist. After a difficult return to the workforce from maternity leave, Sarah decided to step away from her career to focus on family, and health, and to pursue a new entrepreneurial journey. In July of 2019, Sarah launched Poppylist, a simplified baby registry platform that helps parents be who they want to be, starting with the right products for their growing family. Sarah resides in Austin, Texas, with her husband, Scott, and two daughters, Amelia and Zoey.

    Sarah has a very relatable story about becoming a new mom, dealing with breastfeeding and mental health issues. She says what we know a lot of moms are feeling on a daily basis, and Jacqueline validates all of these feelings and thoughts. Being a mom is hard work, but listening to Sarah’s story just may leave you feeling like you’re not really alone. 

    In today's show, we discuss:

    • Sarah’s birth stories
    • Breastfeeding both of her children in very different ways
    • What Sarah wishes she knew for her first birth
    • Mental health and how Sarah balances and copes
    • Pumping, nursing, and weaning

    A Glance at This Episode:

    • [3:02] Sarah’s journey to motherhood
    • [4:51] Ameila’s birth story
    • [7:33] Sarah looks back on what she wishes she would have known during her first labor
    • [10:52] Sarah’s breastfeeding journey with Amelia
    • [18:30] How Sarah handled pumping for Amelia when it was time to go back to work
    • [26:10] What Sarah did differently in her breastfeeding journey with Zoey
    • [38:28] Weaning Zoey and how Sarah dealt with the emotions
    • [51:13] What Populist is and how it’s beneficial to moms

    Related Links:

    • Poppylist Homepage
    • Start Your Poppylist Baby Registry
    • Poppylist Instagram
    • Poppylist Twitter
    • Holistic Lactation Website
    • Follow on Instagram
    • The Nurture Collective
    • Our Advanced Lactation Formula supplement for naturally increasing & sustaining milk supply

    Support the show

    More from Holistic Lactation:

    • Save on our supplements using code PODCAST15 at https://holisticlactation.com/products
    • Shop on Amazon
    • Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/holisticlactation
    • Access group support & our courses at https://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collective
    • Get 1:1 expert lactation help at https://holisticlactation.com/clinic

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    55 min
  • Cleft Babies & Breastfeeding

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    In today’s episode, Jacqueline is joined by Alyssa Messick. A mom of two on her journey of integrating cleft with breastfeeding. Alyssa shares her story about trying to feed her newborn babies while being a new mom and trying to keep her mental health stable. 

    This is a great episode for any mama with a cleft baby, or expecting a cleft baby. This is definitely a unique challenge and a lot of women wonder how they can combine that journey with breastfeeding. This is also an amazing story of perseverance, and one determined mama.

    In this show, you'll hear:

    • Types of clefts that Alyssa’s children were diagnosed with
    • How Alyssa mentally dealt with the diagnoses
    • Both of Alyssa’s birth stories and beyond
    • Pumping for her first child
    • Breastfeeding her second child
    • How Alyssa supports women today 

    A Glance at This Episode:

    •  [1:16] Alyssa shares how she found out her children were cleft and how she dealt with the diagnosis
    • [4:23] Types of clefts that Alyssa’s kids were diagnosed with
    • [5:15] Alyssa’s birth plan with her 2nd son after knowing the diagnosis, and during the first month of feeding
    • [12:29] Alyssa talks about her support system
    • [14:03] Alyssa’s son is readmitted to the hospital for the second time
    • [21:56] How Alyssa balances work amongst the hospital stays and surgeries
    • [23:50] Transitioning from the hospital back home
    • [27:27] Alyssa shares her second experience with her next baby also being diagnosed with cleft
    • [34:34[ Alyssa’s breastfeeding journey with her second
    • [38:04] Breastfeeding after the newborn stage
    • [39:30] How Alyssa is supporting other cleft moms 
    • [43:02] How Alyssa weaned her son and when

     

    Related Links:

    • Alyssa’s Instagram
    • Holistic Lactation Website
    • Follow on Instagram
    • 🍼 If you are truly struggling with breastmilk production, check out our Advanced Lactation Formula supplement or consider booking a Low Milk Supply Consultation or Pumping Consultation with us
    • 📚 Looking for more trusted knowledge and a deep dive on how to know what’s what with breastfeeding and how to overcome problems? Check out our support community The Nurture Collective®

    Support the show

    More from Holistic Lactation:

    • Save on our supplements using code PODCAST15 at https://holisticlactation.com/products
    • Shop on Amazon
    • Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/holisticlactation
    • Access group support & our courses at https://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collective
    • Get 1:1 expert lactation help at https://holisticlactation.com/clinic

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    52 min
  • Low Milk Supply: True or False?

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    In today’s episode, Jacqueline talks about a common and frustrating problem that alot of moms have, perceived low milk supply. Many moms will claim to have a low milk supply, but actually they are just fine and aren’t educated on what breastfeeding looks like. 

    This episode clears it all up for you whether you’re a new mom, a seasoned mom, or just new to breastfeeding. Jacqueline will visit the top reasons that moms think they have a low milk supply, and what an actual low milk supply would look like. She shares breastfeeding resources, and gives tips on when to seek professional help. 


    In today's show, we discuss:

    • How online ‘coaches’ are popping up more on social media and the safety concern for your babies medical wellbeing
    • All about the letdown
    • Knowing how to read your baby’s hunger cues and when to work with a professional
    • Why moms think they have a low milk supply and what a low milk supply actually would look like
    • Milk transfer vs. milk production
    • Problems and myths around perceived low milk supply


    A Glance at This Episode:

    • [7:06] The difference between coaches and medical providers.  
    • [8:13] The rumor behind not having a letdown when nursing and how this is highly inaccurate
    • [13:51] The most common reason moms think they have a low milk supply
    • [21:40] Working with a professional to identify why your baby is crying
    • [25:22] The best ways we have for breastfeeding success
    • [28:31] Milk transfer vs. milk production
    • [34:39] Problems that arise from perceived low milk supply
    • [38:36] Perceived low milk supply with pumping
    • [47:20] Myths around low milk supply


    Related Links:

    • https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4508856/
    • https://internationalbreastfeedingjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13006-020-00310-y
    • https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/mcn.13255
    • Holistic Lactation
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    More from Holistic Lactation:

    • Save on our supplements using code PODCAST15 at https://holisticlactation.com/products
    • Shop on Amazon
    • Follow us on Instagram https://instagram.com/holisticlactation
    • Access group support & our courses at https://holisticlactation.com/nurture-collective
    • Get 1:1 expert lactation help at https://holisticlactation.com/clinic

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    59 min

About Breastfeeding Talk

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Breastfeeding Talk is a conversational podcast that explores the breastfeeding journey with a focus on new motherhood. Stock broker turned lactation consultant, and host, Jacqueline Kincer, IBCLC,…

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