UNSCRIPTED with Dino Rizzo

Brett Jones, Houston, TX


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“I’m not overworked, I'm under-planned…Together, let’s see if we can do something that we don’t see a model for.”

This is how Pastor Brett Jones invited his brother, Scott Jones, to co-pastor with him, after pastoring for a few years on his own. They began partnering to lead Grace Church in Houston, TX, and have now led together for 38 years. Not only have they defied the discouraging advice that “anything with 2 heads is a freak”, but they’ve also scaled an incredible model for how to maintain your relationships, set aside your egos, and prioritize servant leadership in every season. 

In this intriguing ‘Unscripted’ conversation, Brett shares much insight with Dino, including:

  • Making sure you don’t compete in relationships
  • Being surrendered and secure in your own gifts without needing any praise
  • The art and importance of serving as a leader
  • Navigating working with your kids in ministry
  • They discuss how “life moves at the speed of relationships” and how ego means “edging God out.” It’s imperative that leaders are fully aware that the part they play is smaller than the vision they’re submitted to. 

    Brett is also passionate about mentoring the next generation and has spent extensive time researching the exemplary mentoring model of Elijah and Elisha. He unpacks this successful transition from generation to generation in his book “The Changeover Principle: Mentoring and the Art of Servant Leadership.” He admits the struggle many leaders experience, finding it easier to call down fire from Heaven than to guide and mentor a successor like Elisha. But, he warns the risk is high if we don’t.

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    The Association of Related Churches (ARC) is a cooperative of independent churches from different denominations, networks, and backgrounds who strategically resource church planters and pastors to help them reach people with the message of Jesus.

    Since 2000, ARC has helped to plant more than 1,070 churches worldwide. If you have a dream in your heart to start a life-giving church and reach your city with the message of Jesus, ARC is here to come alongside you in the journey. Attending ARC Launch, a church planter training event, is the first step in planting a church with ARC. You will hear from ARC pastors, coaches, and staff as they share the nuts and bolts of church planting. Discover more and register for ARC Launch at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.arcchurches.com/launch/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Don’t Do Ministry Alone - We need relationships to thrive. You need other people in your corner, who have gone through similar things that you’ve gone through, and believe in your dream. ARC provides opportunities for you to build relationships with others in ministry that will support and strengthen you in what God has called you to do. Learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.arcchurches.com/connect/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

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