In this episode of the Grow Leader Podcast, Pastor Chris interviews bestselling author and leadership expert Patrick Lencioni about one of his most powerful tools: The Six Working Geniuses.

Pat explains the six types, how they reveal your God-given wiring, and how understanding them can transform teamwork, communication, and church culture.

PC shares his own assessment results, and Pat unpacks how to lean into strengths, reduce frustration, and build a more effective team. A practical, energizing conversation for every leader.

Episode Resources:

• 6 Types Of Working Genius: Discover Your Gifts and Transform Your Work: https://www.workinggenius.com/

All Things GrowLeader:

• Register for GrowLeader Conference 2026: https://www.growleader.com/conference

• Join Monthly Mentoring with Pastor Chris: https://www.growleader.com/monthlymentoring

• Access FREE church resources: https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/resources

• Develop a Kingdom Builders or Legacy Team: https://www.growleader.com/kbvirtualintensive

• Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyCNQpi3YxaOeQAIdSpbeVw

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In this episode, Pastor Chris Hodges is joined by worship leader and songwriter Chris Tomlin to talk about his new album The King Is Still the King, recorded in part live at Highlands College. Chris shares the heart behind the project, songwriting stories rooted in Scripture, and why worship matters so deeply in the middle of cultural chaos.

You'll hear the inspiration behind songs like "Still the King," "How Good It Is," "He Has Done Great Things," and "Help My Unbelief," plus a special story about partnering with the Birmingham Youth Fellowship Choir on "Jesus Saves."

Whether you're a pastor, worship leader, or believer who loves worship music, this episode will encourage you and build your faith. The King is still the King and this conversation will remind you why.

Episode Resources:

• The King Is Still The King (Apple Music): https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-king-is-still-the-king/1822580562

• The King Is Still The King (Spotify): https://open.spotify.com/album/2ieE6Mqwu3aMWflIdIbNkS?si=ZH_W0w2wRHCZCiy05FVruw

• Chris Tomlin's Website: https://christomlin.com/

All Things GrowLeader:

• Register for GrowLeader Conference 2026: https://www.growleader.com/conference

• Join Monthly Mentoring with Pastor Chris: https://www.growleader.com/monthlymentoring

• Access FREE church resources: https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/resources

• Develop a Kingdom Builders or Legacy Team: https://www.growleader.com/kbvirtualintensive

• Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyCNQpi3YxaOeQAIdSpbeVw

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In this powerful episode of the Grow Leader Podcast, Pastor Chris sits down with two remarkable leaders whose lives embody generosity, stewardship, and multi-generational impact: David Green, founder of Hobby Lobby, and Bill High, author, legacy expert, and longtime friend of the Green family.

Together, David and Bill discuss their brand-new book The Legacy Life, a guide to embracing God's design for generational influence. You'll hear David share his family's story of faithfulness, the biblical convictions that shaped Hobby Lobby, and why he believes we own nothing and steward everything. Bill unpacks the mindset shift from ownership to stewardship and explains why legacy is far more than what you leave behind, it's what you set in motion.

Whether you're leading a church, a business, or a family, this episode is filled with wisdom that will challenge and inspire you to build something that outlives your own lifetime.

Episode Resources:

• The Legacy Life: https://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Life-Leading-Difference-Eternity/dp/1540904806

All Things GrowLeader:

• Register for GrowLeader Conference 2026: https://www.growleader.com/conference

• Join Monthly Mentoring with Pastor Chris: https://www.growleader.com/monthlymentoring

• Access FREE church resources: https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/resources

• Develop a Kingdom Builders or Legacy Team: https://www.growleader.com/kbvirtualintensive

• Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyCNQpi3YxaOeQAIdSpbeVw

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In this episode of the GrowLeader Podcast, Pastor Chris Hodges and business leader Pastor Lee Domingue sit down for a powerful conversation about the relationship between pastors and business leaders and how that partnership can accelerate the mission of Jesus.

They unpack the biblical model of kings and priests working together, showing how vision and provision unite to advance the Kingdom. Pastor Chris and Lee share practical ways pastors can disciple and affirm business leaders, build trust through transparency and excellence, and create environments where both spiritual and financial gifts thrive.

Whether you're a pastor looking to build stronger relationships with your church's business community, or a marketplace leader wanting to align your work with God's purpose, this episode offers the tools, language, and inspiration to make it happen.

All Things GrowLeader:

• Register for GrowLeader Conference 2026: https://www.growleader.com/conference

• Join Monthly Mentoring with Pastor Chris: https://www.growleader.com/monthlymentoring

• Access FREE church resources: https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/resources

• Develop a Kingdom Builders or Legacy Team: https://www.growleader.com/kbvirtualintensive

• Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyCNQpi3YxaOeQAIdSpbeVw

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In this episode of the GrowLeader Podcast, Pastor Chris Hodges sits down with financial expert and best-selling author Dave Ramsey for a powerful conversation on money, leadership, and building lasting momentum.

Dave unpacks his Momentum Theorem—focused intensity over time, multiplied by God's blessings—and shares how leaders can overcome fear, stay focused, and develop financial systems that create freedom for both individuals and churches. You'll hear practical insights on budgeting, debt, generosity, and how to help people move from being strapped to being free.

Whether you're a pastor, business leader, or simply want to grow in stewardship, this conversation will challenge and equip you with timeless principles to build unstoppable momentum in your life and ministry.

Episode Resources:

• Ramsey Solutions: https://www.ramseysolutions.com/

• EntreLeadership:https://www.ramseysolutions.com/business/entreleadership?srsltid=AfmBOooe1neJpptuijruZ6tSK0G-IkaYA13-OwHHQedMaKWMRVZeR213

• Building a Business You Love: https://store.ramseysolutions.com/business-and-career/books/build-a-business-you-love-by-dave-ramsey/

• Financial Peace University: https://www.ramseysolutions.com/money/financial-peace

• The Total Money Makeover: ​​https://store.ramseysolutions.com/money/books/the-total-money-makeover-by-dave-ramsey/

All Things GrowLeader:

• Learn More about GrowLeader Conference 2026: https://www.growleader.com/conference

• Join Monthly Mentoring with Pastor Chris: https://www.growleader.com/monthlymentoring

• Access FREE church resources: https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/resources

• Develop a Kingdom Builders or Legacy Team: https://www.growleader.com/kbvirtualintensive

• Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyCNQpi3YxaOeQAIdSpbeVw

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In this episode of the GrowLeader Podcast, Pastor Chris Hodges and co-host Matt Minor explore what many are calling the first drops of revival spreading across the nation. From college campuses to local churches, there's a rising hunger for God and it's catching the attention of even secular media.

Pastor Chris shares a powerful Pastor's Action Plan to Be Revival Ready—a practical roadmap for leaders to cultivate prayer, strengthen discipleship systems, train leaders, and prepare their churches to hold the harvest God is bringing. Together, they unpack how to balance spiritual fire with healthy structure, keep the focus on Jesus, and ensure revival doesn't just stay in the church but spills into the streets.

Whether you're a pastor, leader, or simply hungry for more of God's presence, this episode will inspire you to pray, prepare, and lead with faith for what's ahead.

Episode Resources:

• 'I think Gen Z is looking for meaning': New data shows Gen Z men returning to church: https://www.abc15.com/news/local-news/i-think-gen-z-is-looking-for-meaning-new-data-shows-gen-z-men-returning-to-church?utm_source=chatgpt.com
• Not just at Easter: Gen Z is returning to Christianity. Data proves it: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2025/04/20/easter-church-christian-gen-z-men/83138618007/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
• Gen Z is finding religion. Why?: https://www.vox.com/religion/410359/gen-z-zoomer-religion-god-faith-politics-trump-pope?utm_source=chatgpt.com
• Young women grow less religious than young men: https://www.axios.com/2024/09/28/religion-poll-gen-z-men-women-gap?utm_source=chatgpt.com
• Young men are leading a religious resurgence: https://www.axios.com/2025/05/10/religious-young-people-christianity-rise?utm_source=chatgpt.com
• New Barna Data: Young Adults Lead a Resurgence in Church Attendance: https://www.barna.com/research/young-adults-lead-resurgence-in-church-attendance/

All Things GrowLeader:

• Learn More about GrowLeader Conference 2026: https://www.growleader.com/conference

• Join Monthly Mentoring with Pastor Chris: https://www.growleader.com/monthlymentoring

• Access FREE church resources: https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/resources

• Develop a Kingdom Builders or Legacy Team: https://www.growleader.com/kbvirtualintensive

• Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyCNQpi3YxaOeQAIdSpbeVw

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In part two of this powerful conversation, Pastor Chris Hodges is joined again by Pastors Rich Wilkerson Jr. (VOUS Church, Miami) and Chad Veach (ZOE Church, Los Angeles) to talk about leadership, ministry, and the challenges pastors face today. From practical insights like weekly prayer gatherings and creating micro-communities, to the role of AI in the church, they share how presence, authenticity, and discipleship are shaping the future.

The conversation also gets vulnerable as they open up about spiritual warfare, personal struggles, parenting, and the importance of daily rhythms in God's Word.

With laughter, honesty, and wisdom, this episode will encourage leaders to stay grounded, keep growing, and embrace the calling God has placed on their lives.

Episode Resources:

• Rich Wilkerson's Mature Me Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@richwilkersonjr
• Chad Veach's Leadership Lean In Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@leadershipleanin

All Things GrowLeader:

• Learn More about GrowLeader Conference 2026: https://www.growleader.com/conference
• Join Monthly Mentoring with Pastor Chris: https://www.growleader.com/monthlymentoring
• Access FREE church resources: https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/resources -
• Develop a Kingdom Builders or Legacy Team: https://www.growleader.com/kbvirtualintensive
• Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyCNQpi3YxaOeQAIdSpbeVw

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• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/growleader/
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In part two of this powerful conversation, Pastor Chris Hodges is joined again by Pastors Rich Wilkerson Jr. (VOUS Church, Miami) and Chad Veach (ZOE Church, Los Angeles) to talk about leadership, ministry, and the challenges pastors face today.

From practical insights like weekly prayer gatherings and creating micro-communities, to the role of AI in the church, they share how presence, authenticity, and discipleship are shaping the future. The conversation also gets vulnerable as they open up about spiritual warfare, personal struggles, parenting, and the importance of daily rhythms in God’s Word.

With laughter, honesty, and wisdom, this episode will encourage leaders to stay grounded, keep growing, and embrace the calling God has placed on their lives.

Episode Resources:

• Rich Wilkerson’s Mature Me Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@richwilkersonjr

• Chad Veach’s Leadership Lean In Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@leadershipleanin

All Things GrowLeader:

• Learn More about GrowLeader Conference 2026: https://www.growleader.com/conference

• Join Monthly Mentoring with Pastor Chris: https://www.growleader.com/monthlymentoring

• Access FREE church resources: https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/resources

• Develop a Kingdom Builders or Legacy Team: https://www.growleader.com/kbvirtualintensive

• Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyCNQpi3YxaOeQAIdSpbeVw

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In this episode of the GrowLeader Podcast, Pastor Chris Hodges sits down with two dynamic church builders—Pastor Chad Veach of ZOE Church in Los Angeles and Pastor Rich Wilkerson Jr. of VOUS Church in Miami. Together, they pull back the curtain on the realities of ministry, sharing practical leadership principles, systems that drive growth, and the heart behind building churches in major cities.

From vision and stewardship to prayer, empowerment, and developing the next generation of leaders, this conversation is full of wisdom, laughter, and behind-the-scenes insight. Whether you're a pastor, leader, or simply someone who wants to grow, you'll leave encouraged and equipped with practical takeaways to strengthen your leadership and your church.

Stay tuned for part two of this powerful conversation, and in the meantime, check out Pastor Chad's Leadership Lean In podcast and Pastor Rich's Mature Me podcast for more leadership inspiration.

Episode Resources:

• Rich Wilkerson's Mature Me Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@richwilkersonjr
• Chad Veach's - Leadership Lean In Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@leadershipleanin

All Things GrowLeader:

• Learn More about - GrowLeader Conference 2026: https://www.growleader.com/conference
• Join Monthly Mentoring with Pastor Chris: https://www.growleader.com/monthlymentoring
• Access FREE church resources: https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/resources
• Develop a Kingdom Builders or Legacy Team: https://www.growleader.com/kbvirtualintensive
• Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyCNQpi3YxaOeQAIdSpbeVw

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• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/growleader/
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In this episode of the GrowLeader Podcast, Pastor Chris Hodges explores the spiritual side of leadership—the unseen battles that impact your life, ministry, and leadership.

Pastor Chris unpacks why some challenges aren't just practical—they're spiritual—and how prayer is your greatest weapon. He shares personal insight like how to recognize spiritual warfare in everyday leadership, use the name of Jesus, the cross, and Scripture to fight back, and finally how to build a culture of prayer in your home, church, or business.

All Things GrowLeader:

• Bulk order Pray First for Young Readers: https://churchsource.com/products/pray-first-for-young-readers-simple-steps-for-talking-and-listening-to-god?variant=41953943748705

• Pray First Book Resources: https://www.thomasnelson.com/p/prayfirst/

• Highlands Resources: https://resources.churchofthehighlands.com/

• Prayer Guide PDF: https://assets.highlands.io/21days/2023/pray-first-guide.pdf

• Church of the Highlands 21 Days of Prayer: https://21days.churchofthehighlands.com/

• Learn More about GrowLeader OneDays: https://www.growleader.com/onedays

• Join Monthly Mentoring with Pastor Chris: https://www.growleader.com/monthlymentoring

• Access FREE church resources: https://www.churchofthehighlands.com/resources

• Develop a Kingdom Builders or Legacy Team: https://www.growleader.com/kbvirtualintensive

• Watch more episodes: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyCNQpi3YxaOeQAIdSpbeVw

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• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/growleader/

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Verse References:

• 2 Corinthians 4:4
• Daniel 10
• 1 Kings 5:3
• Matthew 18:20
• Ephesians 6
• 2 Corinthians 10:3-5
• 2 Corinthians 11:14
• John 10:10
• 1 Peter 5:8-9
• 1 John 4:4
• Philippians 2:9-10
• Luke 10:18
• Revelation 12:11
• Luke 4
• Matthew 4
• Romans 8:37
• Psalm 27
• Philippians 4:19
• Psalm 103:3
• 2 Corinthians 3:6
• Psalm 121
• James 4:7-8
• 1 John 1:9
• Lamentations 3:22-23
• 2 Corinthians 2:10-11
• Ephesians 4:26-27
• Ephesians 5
• John 8:44
• John 8:31-32