In this episode, host Aaron Crow welcomes Chris Robertson, CISO at Apogee Defense, to discuss the evolving landscape of cybersecurity, focusing on the distinction and strategy behind Virtual CISO (vCSO) roles. 

Chris shares insights from his dual roles at Apogee Defense and as a virtual chief security officer for various companies. The conversation dives into the intricacies and responsibilities of vCSOs, the importance of understanding IT and OT risks, and the necessity of integrating cybersecurity deeply into business practices. 

Chris and Aaron explore practical solutions for businesses, emphasizing adaptability and continuous improvement in security measures, drawing parallels between accounting a century ago and cybersecurity today. 

They also touch on future trends, the impact of AI on security, and the importance of setting aside egos to foster a culture of learning and collaboration. 

Join them as they navigate the challenges and opportunities at the intersection of IT and OT cybersecurity, offering actionable advice and anecdotes from their extensive experience in the field.

Key Moments: 

00:00 Outsourcing Risk Management Expertise

08:22 Hiring External Experts: Cost-Effective Strategy

12:04 Understanding OT Risks in Cyber Leadership

20:36 MBA Curriculum Needs Security Focus

23:31 Integrating Security in Legacy Systems

27:47 Tech Efficiency and Shadow IT Challenges

35:56 Optimizing Inefficient Appointment Systems

39:08 Bridging Tech and Business Worlds

45:43 Simplifying Risk Communication

51:52 Joe Rogan's Impact and Risks

57:09 AI Evolution: Professionals Riding the Wave

01:05:53 "Embrace Vulnerability, Seek Help"

About the guest : 

Chris Robertson is a seasoned cybersecurity expert, currently serving as the Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) at Apogee Defense. In addition to this role, Chris extends his expertise as a virtual CISO for various companies across multiple sectors. He specializes in implementing robust security solutions that Apogee Defense delivers to its clients, predominantly within the Small and Medium Business (SMB) space. 

With a keen focus on the defense industrial base, Chris's work also spans various other industries, enabling businesses to strengthen their cybersecurity frameworks. He is highly regarded in the industry for facilitating vital connections and contributing to advancing cybersecurity practices.

How to connect Chris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophersrobertson/

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