Most gurus will tell you to dream bigger, launch more, and hustle harder. Paul Sokol says the opposite—and his results prove it.

In this episode, Tracy sits down with automation legend and operations strategist Paul Sokol (yes, the guy who literally wrote the Infusionsoft Cookbook) to talk about what actually separates successful businesses from the chaos: boring systems, relentless habits, and the guts to commit to one source of truth.

Paul breaks down why In-N-Out's 6-item menu crushes most entrepreneurs' 47-product lineups, how to build a business stack that doesn't collapse when life gets messy, and why most people genuinely aren't cut out for entrepreneurship—and that's not a bad thing.

If you've been throwing spaghetti at the wall hoping something sticks, this episode will recalibrate your entire approach.

You'll learn:

• The business taxonomy that determines which strategies will actually work for YOU
• Why you need one "source of truth"—and how to build it without losing your mind
• The 7-layer business stack (and which habits matter most at each level)
• How to honor your calendar when no one's holding you accountable
• Why boring businesses win (and what that means for your sanity)

Guest Bio: Rev. Paul Sokol is an R&D engineer turned operations strategist who's helped thousands of business owners automate smarter and scale sustainably. He's the founder of Keep Children Rockin', a nonprofit providing music equipment to underfunded schools, and he's not afraid to call out the BS most business coaches won't touch.

What happens when the person who believed in you most dies—and your partner doesn't know how to fill that void?

Katie Rössler, licensed therapist and entrepreneur, knows firsthand. After losing her mother (her biggest cheerleader), she found herself spinning—redirecting all her need for validation onto her husband, wrapping her identity into her business, and collapsing every time he asked a logical question about her next big idea.

In this raw, vulnerable conversation, Katie walks us through the moment she realized she was doing it all wrong. She wasn't unsupported—she was expecting her partner to be something he couldn't be. And she was using his skepticism as proof that she was a failure.

This episode isn't about "fixing" your partner. It's about showing up differently in your relationship, your business, and your own damn life.

You'll learn:

• Why feeling unsupported often mirrors how you're treating yourself
• The maximizer/minimizer effect (and why your partner's questions aren't attacks)
• How to approach your partner with ideas AFTER you've done the work
• Why simplifying saved Katie's business during grief, miscarriages, and international moves
• The difference between therapy and relationship skills (and why one isn't always the answer)
• How to stop shrinking and start living your legacy today

Trigger warning: This episode discusses grief, pregnancy loss, and emotional overwhelm.

Guest Bio: Katie Rössler is a licensed professional counselor, international entrepreneur, and host of the All Things Relationships podcast. She helps high-achieving women navigate the intersection of ambition and relationships—without sacrificing either. Based in Munich, Germany, Katie has rebuilt her business abroad while raising three kids, grieving her mother, and learning to stop apologizing for taking up space.

What if the most strategic thing you could do for your business is lead with your heart?

Katie Smetherman-Holmes, bestselling author and brand strategist, is rewriting the rules of business by bringing empathy and emotion back into leadership. She's built Brand Studio Creative while managing chronic migraines—and she's here to destroy the myth that scaling has to mean sacrifice.

In this conversation, Katie shares what it's really like to run a business when some days you can only give 20% (and why that's still your 100%). She talks about why "making friends" beats networking, how to build brands that connect in the age of AI, and why hustle culture is a lie that's hurting us all.

If you've ever been told to "take the emotion out of it" or felt like you had to choose between your humanity and your success, this is your permission slip to do it differently.

You'll learn:

• How to give yourself grace when your body says "not today"
• Why leading with empathy creates deeper client connections (and better business)
• The brand strategy pieces most people ignore (mission, values, purpose—not just visuals)
• Why AI can never replace human connection in branding
• How to move at a pace that works for YOUR life (not someone else's timeline)
• The 1% shift: Auditing your brand with a heart-centered lens

Guest Bio: Katie Smetherman-Holmes is a bestselling author, brand strategist, and graphic designer who runs Brand Studio Creative. She helps purpose-driven businesses build brands that connect on a human level—not just a transactional one. Based in Dallas, Texas, Katie has built a thriving business while managing chronic migraines, proving that success doesn't have to look like hustle.

What if the systems that save your life don't come from textbooks—but from breakdowns, addiction, and radical honesty?

Nikki Torres-Langman is a force of nature. Recovering addict. International keynote speaker. Creator of the BADASS framework and Unbrickable—a resilience program that launched at Yale and uses Lego bricks to teach what most people are too afraid to talk about.

Her story starts at seven years old. By 21, she was bedridden with a broken back and a prescription for OxyContin. For 15 years, she fought to free herself from what she describes as being "caught in a riptide underwater and wrapped in barbed wire."

The turning point? Her husband came home one day and said, "Babe, one day I'm going to come home and you will be dead. I know it. I'm prepared for it."

In that moment—what the Greeks call kairos, a moment within a moment where time stands still—Nikki stood up and said, "Not me, not today."

This episode is raw, unfiltered, and necessary. Nikki talks about what "life-tired" feels like, why the self-help industry is full of false prophets, and why "be your best every day" is terrible advice. She's bringing the truth we're not saying out loud—and if you've ever led while falling apart, this one's for you.

You'll learn:

• The BADASS framework: Brave, Authentic, Direction, Action, Self-love, Self-talk
• Why "be badass every day" is achievable (and "be your best" isn't)
• What real self-awareness actually means (hint: 90% of people get it wrong)
• How Unbrickable is teaching resilience with Lego bricks in universities
• Why the mental health crisis has become a tsunami
• The 1% shift: Practice being 1% braver than yesterday

Content Warning: This episode discusses addiction, substance misuse, and suicidal ideation.

Guest Bio: Nikki Torres-Langman is a recovering addict, international keynote speaker, emotional intelligence master practitioner, and creator of the BADASS framework and Unbrickable program. She's spoken at Yale, coached C-suite executives, and is on a mission to make emotional intelligence education a movement. Her bestselling book, How to Be a Badass: Navigating Your Road to Self-Mastery, is available at bookshop.org.

This isn’t another highlight-reel podcast. Brilliant Chaos is for the ones building empires between doctor’s appointments, dance recitals, and deadline hell. The Carepreneurs, misfit leaders, and chaos-driven builders who are tired of pretending life is linear.

In this episode, host Tracy Hoobyar—resilience strategist, systems architect, and founder of Core Impact and System Chicks—shares the story behind Brilliant Chaos and what it really means to build a business that bends, not breaks, when life gets loud.

You’ll hear how her own life—from teen mom to nonprofit founder to multi-brand CEO—shaped the mission behind this show: to equip you with the real tools, truth, and systems that actually work when the world feels unpredictable.

Because chaos doesn’t cancel your calling.

It clarifies it.

Takeaways:

• What Brilliant Chaos stands for (and what it doesn’t).
• The reality of building in the messy middle.
• Why your story—and your systems—matter more than perfection.