This week on Unorthodox, we check in with Jake Turx, the now-famous Orthodox White House reporter who asked Trump about anti-Semitism.

Our guests this week are Leah Green and Freddy McConnell, co-hosts of The Guardian’s “Token” podcast. Leah is mixed-race—her mother is Jewish and her father Nigerian—and Freddy is transgender and gay, and on their show they discuss topics like sex, gender, and race with frankness and humor (and British accents). We talk about whether Jews are white, find out the worst thing you can say to someone when you find out they’re transgender, and debate anti-Semitism on the British left.

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Music Credits:

"Unorthodox Theme Song" by Golem

"Yakety Sax" by Spider Rich and Boots Randolph

"D'Bronx Tanz" by Tres Tristes Tango

"Hello City" by Barenaked Ladies

"Thorn in Your Side" by Namoli Brennet