This week was the first time Britney Spears ever personally addressed the court — and in doing so, the public — about wanting to terminate the conservatorship, controlled by her father, that she has been under since 2008. But the New York Times recently reported that her lawyer first told a court seven years ago that Britney wanted to explore having her father removed.

Dan is joined by Vox.com’s Constance Grady to discuss how public concern about her conservatorship went mainstream, what we know about her situation, what this says about how our culture thinks about celebrity and mental illness, and what could come next in this case.