On Tuesday’s episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by discussing the devastating

They also discuss the impact on the team's cornerback depth, potential replacements like Greg Newsome II, and how defensive strategies might have to shift.

Then they discuss what Dee and Jimmy Haslam's said on Tuesday.

They start by addressing how the Haslams addressed Quinshon Judkins' domestic violence case and the team's approach to addressing such issues.

They also talked about Jimmy Haslam's response to the narrative that he influenced the drafting of Shedeur Sanders, emphasizing the team's evaluation of rookie quarterbacks and the long-term outlook for the position.

The podcast concludes with a debate about the Haslams' messaging regarding a potential rebuild, balancing realistic expectations with the need to maintain a winning culture and fan morale.

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