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Lisa Cairns speaks with Rick Archer about awakening, the end of doership, and the way suffering softens when the belief in a separate self begins to fall away. She describes how her seeing changed after meeting Tony Parsons, spending time with Ramesh Balsekar, and living with Roger Castillo in Australia, where many assumptions were seen through and the seeker eventually dropped away.

This conversation goes deep into the illusion of cause and effect, the difference between description and prescription, and why life feels so different when it is no longer interpreted through concepts, blame, or personal control. Lisa also speaks about relative and absolute truth, the role of teachers and practices, the energy of seeking, and the spontaneous intelligence that seems to orchestrate the mind-body system.

Recorded January 7, 2012, this interview offers a clear and lively exploration of freedom, happiness, and the hilarity of ego from a nondual perspective.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - A De-scription, Not a Pre-scription

00:03:49 - The Illusion of Cause and Effect

00:07:20 - Living without Concepts and Belief Systems

00:10:50 - Animal Cruelty and Personal Concern

00:13:35 - The Funny Story of How I Met My Boyfriend Roger

00:16:28 - From Buddhism to Tony Parsons

00:19:40 - The Illusion of Cause and Effect

00:23:11 - The Need to Hold onto Blame, Good and Bad Perspectives

00:26:52 - Indifference towards the opinions of others

00:30:43 - Life Showing What Needs to Be Happening

00:33:37 - Enlightenment and Spiritual Practice

00:37:09 - The Illusion of Happiness and Beliefs

00:40:59 - The End of the Urge to Do

00:44:51 - The Falling Away of Beliefs and Ideas

00:48:20 - The Dog's Thoughts

00:52:05 - The Spotlight on Experiences

00:55:24 - The Marvelous Creation of God

00:59:00 - Continuous Refinement and Exploration

01:02:48 - The Energy of Seeking

01:05:44 - The Joy of Laughing with Others

01:08:56 - The Awakening and Separation

01:12:08 - Overwhelmed by the Beauty of Everything

01:15:20 - A Radical Change of Perspective

01:18:52 - Exiting the Incubator

01:22:11 - The Intelligence Orchestrating the Mind-Body System

01:24:33 - Flexibility and Freedom in Being

01:27:44 - The Hilarity and Suffering of the Ego

01:30:47 - The Metaphor of Lines on Stone, Sand, Water, and Air

01:33:53 - Consultations and Donations

01:36:53 - The Challenges of Managing Time

01:39:29 - Visit BATGAP.com

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Greg Goode is a teacher of nondualism known for his breadth of expression, clear philosophical mind, and sense of humor. In this conversation, Greg and Rick explore the direct path, non-doership, the vanishing of identity, and how spiritual inquiry can move from concepts into lived experience.

Greg also speaks about the relationship between language and experience, the pitfalls of fundamentalism in non-dual circles, and why different teachings may fit different temperaments. The discussion moves through his journey from Pentecostal Christianity to mystical traditions, as well as his reflections on devotion, presence, relationships, and the surprising role of clarity in place of older spiritual language like awareness.

Greg’s background in philosophy and philosophical counseling adds a distinctive angle to the interview, grounding the conversation in practical inquiry rather than abstract theory.

Interview recorded 12/24/2011

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction and Technical Difficulties

00:03:04 - Ethical Dilemmas and Non-dualism

00:06:13 - Exploring Non-Doership & Personal Spiritual Journey

00:10:31 - Transitioning from Pentecostal Christianity to Mystical Traditions

00:14:48 - The Exploration of Spiritual Texts

00:19:28 - The Search for Identity and Purpose

00:22:52 - The Vanishing of Identity

00:25:46 - The Distinction between Concepts and Experience

00:28:22 - The Different Paths of Yoga

00:31:38 - No Personal Identity

00:35:34 - Riding Fixed Gear Track Bikes in the City

00:38:46 - The Arising of Thought and Memory

00:41:20 - The Illusion of Access and Oneness

00:44:32 - The Non-Existence of Arisings

00:46:45 - Grounded in Understanding Experience

00:49:46 - The Influence of Teachings on Language

00:53:34 - Stagnation in Non-Dual Discussion Groups

00:57:37 - The Power of Presence for Spiritual Transformation

01:00:24 - Embracing Feminine Integration and Relationships

01:02:44 - Non-Duality and Devotion

01:06:02 - The Phenomenon of Devotion

01:07:50 - The Power of Devotion

01:10:06 - The Visual Presence of the Holy Ghost

01:12:19 - The Diversity of Spiritual Perspectives

01:15:12 - Exploring Continuous Growth and Finality in Experience

01:18:57 - The Rigidity of Language and Alternative Teachings

01:22:08 - Ramana Maharshi's Visits and the Afterlife of Greg Good

01:25:14 - Exploring Continuity of Individuality

01:30:04 - A Conversation with an Open Mind

01:32:45 - The Shift from Awareness to Clarity

01:35:11 - Farewell and Music

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Bob Nickel speaks with clarity and simplicity about awakening, self-inquiry, and the difference between temporary spiritual experiences and the recognition of what never changes. In this conversation, he shares how a willingness to look within opened the way to deeper self-knowledge, and how Ramana Maharshi’s invitation to abide as the Self became the heart of his satsang work.

Bob also speaks candidly about illness, fear, and the way life events can intensify the question of who we really are. He reflects on the limits of words and concepts, the role of the inner and outer guru, and the strange drama of the mind that can obscure what is always already present. Throughout, he returns again and again to the simple immediacy of “I am.”

Recorded near the end of his life, this interview carries a quiet urgency and warmth. Bob’s directness, humor, and steadiness make this a memorable exploration of nonduality, surrender, and the intelligence that seems to move through all experience.

Interview recorded 12/18/2011

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction to Bob Nickel and his Spiritual Odyssey

00:04:10 - The Beginning of Self-Inquiry

00:06:59 - The fleeting nature of peak experiences

00:09:11 - Ramana's Teachings on Being Still and Self-Inquiry

00:11:14 - The Explosive Moment of Self-Inquiry

00:13:09 - The Half Step Back Into Yourself

00:15:06 - Awakening despite physical challenges

00:17:56 - The Limitations of Words and Concepts

00:20:56 - Living Life as a Question

00:24:33 - The Inner Guru and Outer Guru

00:27:12 - A Missed Opportunity to Thank Her

00:29:19 - Gratitude and the Connection Between Individuals

00:31:34 - Living in the Present Moment

00:34:00 - The Depth of the Ocean beyond the Waves

00:35:44 - The Wake-Up Call and the Presence of Mark

00:37:30 - Young People Giving Satsang

00:39:07 - The Importance of Self-inquiry in Education

00:40:51 - Arguments among Non-Dualists

00:43:10 - The Formation of Orthodoxy and Heresy

00:45:03 - "Be Who You Are" and Effort in Self-Inquiry

00:47:12 - The Unshakable Knowingness

00:49:26 - The Dissipation of "Yeah, Buts" in Satsang

00:51:32 - The Importance of Taking Action

00:53:35 - The Value of Diverse Spiritual Experiences

00:55:59 - The Mind's Love for Drama

00:57:49 - The Marvelous Orchestra of Intelligence

00:59:33 - The Mystery of "I Am"

01:01:42 - The Mysterious Intelligence of "I am"

01:04:15 - Concluding Remarks

01:06:06 - Interact with the Interview

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Robert Wolfe talks about enlightenment, non-duality, and the way spiritual seeking can be distorted by expectations. Drawing from years of solitude in a redwood forest, study, and direct conversations with seekers, he describes awakening not as a special future state, but as a recognition of what is already here now. The conversation centers on the dissolution of the separate self and the clarity that can arise when the search finally relaxes.

Robert and Rick also explore the mythologizing of enlightenment, the role of interest versus practice, and why people often overlook what they are looking for because they expect it to look dramatic. The discussion ranges from Krishnamurti and Zen to physics, the intelligence of the cosmos, and the importance of reading, writing, and speaking about awakening experiences in a way that can actually communicate them.

Robert’s reflections come from a life that included many different jobs and a long period of contemplative living, eventually leading him to write about living nonduality and the Gospel of Thomas. His approach is practical, direct, and grounded in the ordinary immediacy of experience.

Interview recorded 12/3/2011

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction to the Interview with Robert Wolfe

00:02:08 - The Meaning of Enlightenment

00:03:47 - The Myth of Enlightenment

00:05:41 - Recognizing the Truth

00:07:42 - The dissolution of the individual conception

00:09:41 - The Significance of the Word "If"

00:11:30 - Insights from Living in the Forest

00:13:50 - Finding the Zen Farming Commune

00:16:14 - Life Changes and Unfinished Business

00:18:42 - Three years in the forest reading, contemplating, and taking walks

00:20:58 - The Misconceptions of Enlightenment

00:22:42 - Guru Suits and Businessmen

00:24:45 - The Power of Immersion in Non-Duality

00:27:21 - Sharing the Truth with Others

00:29:46 - Relocating to Ohio for Krishnamurti's Teachings

00:32:51 - Making self-realization a priority amidst worldly responsibilities

00:35:54 - The Illusion of Future Results

00:38:23 - The Cultivation of Deep Interest in Enlightenment

00:40:57 - The Difference in Interest levels

00:43:13 - The Illusion of Control and the Mystery of Self

00:46:04 - Awareness of the Witness vs. the Witnessed

00:48:57 - Non-duality and Physics

00:52:06 - Linkage of Subatomic Particles

00:54:41 - The Intelligence of the Cosmos

00:56:52 - The Development of Spiritual Intelligence

00:59:24 - The Purpose of Human Existence

01:01:30 - The Importance of Expressing Awakening Experiences

01:04:21 - The Importance of Reading, Writing, and Speaking

01:06:28 - A Quest for Truth

01:07:56 - A Joyful Journey

01:09:15 - Stay Connected with Buddha at the Gas Pump

01:10:46 - Theme Music

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Jon Bernie shares his long and unusual spiritual journey, beginning with an awakening experience at sixteen and continuing through years of Zen and Theravada Buddhist practice, monastic life, and later study with teachers such as Jean Klein, H.W.L. Poonja, Robert Adams, Brother David Steindl-Rast, and Adyashanti. In this conversation with Rick Archer, Jon explores awakening as a living reality that unfolds through the body, mind, and heart, rather than as a fixed idea or belief.

A central theme of the interview is the relationship between awakening and healing. Jon talks about satsang as a powerful field of energy and attunement, where people often experience deep emotional release, fear softening, and buried material rising to the surface. He also discusses identity, the role of language, the difference between conceptual understanding and direct realization, and why the path continues as ongoing discovery rather than a final state.

Jon is also a teacher of the Alexander Technique and a certified Zero Balancing practitioner, and he brings a grounded, embodied perspective to spiritual transformation. His reflections on readiness, human feeling, and the “next obvious thing” make this a rich conversation for anyone interested in nondual realization, healing, and authentic spiritual maturation.

Interview recorded 11/13/2011

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - The Power of Energy in Satsangs

00:05:18 - Interconnectedness and Synchronization

00:07:57 - A Psychic Awakening at 16

00:10:28 - Questioning the Existence of a Creative Force

00:13:42 - The Mind Wanders

00:16:53 - Becoming a Buddhist Monk

00:20:32 - The End of Fear and the End of Seeking

00:23:52 - Constant Discovery

00:27:27 - Second Awakening and the End of Fear

00:30:54 - Subtle Ways of Transformation

00:33:56 - Healing the Unseen and Unhealed Parts of Ourselves

00:36:50 - Relating to Spiritual Teachers on a Human Level

00:39:48 - Monastic Component in TM Movement

00:43:11 - Embracing Different Paths to Personal Growth

00:46:35 - Talking about Personal Identity

00:50:04 - The Experience of Human Feelings

00:52:47 - A Meeting with a Radiant Spiritual Teacher

00:55:50 - The Absence of Self-Consciousness

00:58:19 - "Do the Next Obvious Thing"

01:01:19 - Discovering Life and Learning as a Human Being

01:04:50 - Being a Mirror for Others' Resistance

01:07:23 - The Miracle of Satsang

01:09:49 - The Beginning of Awakening

01:12:14 - The Question of Belief

01:15:08 - The Inner Lives of Individuals

01:18:31 - Awakening to Shakti with Rick and Tony

01:20:58 - Collective Transformation and Flexible Approaches to Spiritual Practice

01:23:43 - Questioning Beliefs and Assumptions

01:26:32 - The Necessity of Gradual Growth and Breakthroughs

01:29:37 - The Path to Truth

01:32:38 - Conclusion and Farewell

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Rupert Spira joins Rick Archer for a deep conversation about awareness, the apparent separate self, direct experience, and the nature of enlightenment. Rupert describes how his early interest in reality led him through years of study and practice in Advaita-Vedanta before meeting Francis Lucille, who directly pointed him to the true nature of experience.

In this interview, he explores why awareness is the first and most immediate fact of experience, how the sense of separation can be examined through body sensations, and why spiritual teaching often points beyond words to presence, silence, and love. He also discusses the seeming objectivity of the world, the illusion of duality, the relationship between awareness and the body-mind, and the ongoing refinement that can follow realization. This is a rich and contemplative conversation for anyone interested in nonduality, self-inquiry, and the lived implications of awakening.

Interview recorded 11/6/2011.

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction to Rupert Spira and his book

00:04:14 - The Path of Advaita-Vedanta

00:08:06 - Recognizing "Home"

00:11:59 - Explorations of Feeling in the Body

00:15:50 - The Mechanics of the Experience

00:20:03 - The Knowingness of Experience

00:23:57 - The Objectivity of Reality

00:27:44 - The Common Perception in a Dream

00:31:26 - The Relationship Between Intelligence and the Structure of the World

00:34:53 - The Nature of Awareness

00:38:37 - The Presence of the Imaginary Separate Self

00:42:38 - Individuality and the Illusion of a Separate Self

00:46:34 - Models of Enlightenment

00:50:22 - Enlightenment and the Perpetuation of the Separate Self

00:53:51 - The Point of View of Awareness vs the Separate Self

00:57:43 - The Illusion of Ignorance and the Reality of Awareness

01:01:23 - The Illusion of Duality

01:04:34 - The Conundrum of the Apparent World

01:08:17 - The Path of Exclusion

01:12:11 - The Path of Understanding and Love

01:15:22 - The Experience of Perception as Awareness

01:18:12 - The Nature of Direct Experience

01:21:08 - The Illusion of Separate Objects

01:24:54 - The Art of Teaching and the Nature of Experience

01:29:04 - Tailoring Love and Understanding to the Question

01:32:57 - The Limitation of Language and Teaching

01:36:46 - The After-Effects of Enlightenment

01:40:40 - The Art of Teaching

01:44:11 - The Continuing Process of Enlightenment

01:48:03 - The Permeation of Love and Transparency

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Jeff Foster graduated in Astrophysics from Cambridge University and, after a period of depression, illness, and an intense spiritual search, came to see through the seeking mechanism itself. In this conversation with Rick Archer, Jeff speaks with humor and clarity about non-duality as a total embrace of life, not a rejection of it. He explores the subtle ways spiritual identity can become another burden, how relationships expose the images we defend, and why intimacy often means letting those defenses die. Jeff also offers a simple but profound “sound bite” for the whole teaching: can this moment be deeply allowed? And if it can’t, can that be allowed too? This interview is full of practical insight into self-acceptance, honesty, and the freedom that is already present in ordinary life. Jeff’s perspective is uncompromising yet compassionate, pointing again and again to what is here before concepts, before roles, and before the story of becoming someone else. If you’ve ever felt caught in spiritual striving, this conversation may be especially helpful.

Interview recorded 10/30/2011

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction to the Interview with Jeff Foster

00:03:24 - The Mystery of Non-Duality

00:06:21 - The Stuck-ness and Freedom

00:09:49 - Discovering the Ocean Behind Things

00:12:30 - Embracing our Humanity

00:16:04 - A Total Embrace of Life and Non-Duality

00:18:54 - The Longing for Completeness and the End of Seeking

00:22:07 - Seeking Completeness in Relationships

00:25:42 - The Natural Movement of Seeking Completeness

00:29:06 - The Completeness of Seeking

00:32:33 - The Paradox of Seeking and Completeness

00:35:55 - The Constant Invitation of Waves

00:39:25 - Embracing Relationships and Self-Acceptance

00:42:26 - The Adventure of Relationships

00:45:30 - The Pain of Honest Self-Reflection

00:48:38 - The Possibility of Recognizing Who You Really Are

00:52:28 - A Journey of Self-Discovery

00:55:47 - The Messy Path to Self-Realization

00:59:26 - The Myth of Dramatic Stories

01:02:03 - The Sun and the Waves

01:05:02 - The New Doing: Rejecting All Doing

01:08:00 - Meeting People at Their Level

01:10:54 - Meeting Without Defenses

01:14:06 - The Man or Woman at the Cash Register

01:17:28 - Reflections on Crucifixion and Acceptance

01:20:51 - The Crucifixion and the Resurrection

01:23:40 - The Evolution of Language and Understanding in Non-duality

01:27:29 - The Natural Expression of Sharing

01:31:11 - Singing Our Song

01:35:02 - Allowing and Acceptance in Spiritual Teachings

01:37:44 - Introduction to the Show and Guest

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Gangaji shares a simple, direct invitation: shift your allegiance from the activities of the mind to the eternal presence of your being. In this conversation, she speaks about the “lottery of enlightenment,” the power of Papaji’s instruction to “stop,” and the surprising freedom that becomes available when thought is no longer treated as the authority on who you are. She also explores the difference between functional thinking and the repetitive stories that define and limit us, and why true recognition doesn’t require becoming someone special or elevated.

Gangaji describes how her own path moved through seeking, disillusionment, and a final prayer for true help before her meeting with Papaji in India changed everything. From there, the discussion opens into practical and deeply human territory: the role of transmission, the importance of sangha, the fear of nonexistence, meditation, relationships, and why fulfillment doesn’t have to depend on what life or other people are giving us. Throughout, she returns again and again to the possibility that what we are looking for is already here.

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Interview recorded 10/18/2011

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Buddha at the Gas Pump with Gangaji

00:02:14 - The Lottery of Enlightenment

00:03:53 - Meeting people as regular individuals

00:05:51 - Reverence for the Teacher

00:07:44 - Teaching from Fulfillment

00:09:20 - The Thunderclap Moment and the Removal of Self-Doubt

00:11:40 - The Global Shift

00:16:06 - The Power of Words and Transmission

00:18:12 - Different types of people and their spiritual awakening

00:20:16 - The Importance of the Sangha

00:21:43 - The Meaning of "Stop" and its Effect

00:23:54 - The Search for Identity

00:26:25 - Surrendering to the Overshadowing Nature of Thought

00:28:08 - The Invitation to Recognize Who You Are

00:30:15 - Recognizing the Role of Thought

00:32:23 - The Function of Storytelling and Overcoming Obstacles

00:34:48 - Discovering the Hidden Treasure

00:37:13 - Discovering Joy in Being

00:39:41 - The Fear of Nonexistence

00:42:22 - Fear as the Ultimate Gatekeeper

00:44:17 - Overcoming Fear and Distraction in Meditation

00:46:38 - Exploring Discomfort in Meditation

00:48:22 - Turning the Mind Back to Its Source

00:50:39 - The Beauty of Meeting Him

00:52:12 - The Beginning of the Journey

00:53:47 - The Growth Through Relationship Challenges

00:55:31 - Finding Love Amidst Chaos

00:57:44 - Love, Fulfillment, and Relationships

00:59:54 - Trusting Yourself

01:01:30 - Concluding remarks and future content

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Ellie Roozdar shares a deeply personal account of childhood experiences of being seen from outside the body, the persistent question “Who am I?”, and the long path that followed through meditation, energy experiences, and self-inquiry. She describes a powerful journey from fear and confusion toward a direct recognition of what she calls the Truth, the silence, and the “nothingness” behind all experience.

In this conversation, Ellie speaks about kundalini awakening, the challenges of spiritual seeking, the limits of borrowed understanding, and the importance of personal experience. She also reflects on Sufism, the stages of self-realization, surrendering the mind, and the paradox that from emptiness arise joy, intelligence, creativity, and peace. Her emphasis is simple and direct: there is no need to become anything; what is true is already here and can be discovered within.

Ellie’s reflections are especially resonant for anyone drawn to meditation, self-inquiry, nonduality, or the mystery of consciousness. Her story is both intimate and universal, pointing again and again to the possibility of waking up to what has always been present.

Interview recorded 10/16/2011

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction: Buddha at the Gas Pump

00:04:06 - The Invisible Vision

00:08:51 - Searching for Meaning and Purpose

00:13:56 - A Powerful Energy Experience

00:18:27 - Kundalini Awakening and Energy Healing

00:22:24 - Seeking Help for Kundalini Blockage

00:26:49 - The Power of Meditation

00:31:04 - The Powerful Meditation Experience

00:35:39 - A Love Affair with the Divine

00:39:21 - The 7 Stages of Self-Realization in Sufism

00:43:37 - A Love Affair with Uncertainty

00:49:06 - Experiencing Oneness and Duality

00:53:01 - Embracing Oneness and Love

00:57:45 - The Kingdom of God Within You

01:02:04 - Surrendering the Mind

01:06:07 - The Path to Self-Realization

01:10:46 - The Path to Awakening

01:15:26 - The Importance of Personal Experience

01:18:55 - Understanding, Realization, and Liberation

01:23:07 - The Truth and the Mind

01:27:21: Disappointment and the Path of Meditation

01:31:09 - The Truth of Oneness

01:35:36 - The Illusion of Reality

01:40:13 - The Beauty of Variety

01:43:52 - Different Ways of Meditation

01:48:01 - Surrendering the Mind and Knowing Yourself

01:51:29 - Surrender to the Burning Desire

01:55:56 - The Truth in Awareness

02:00:45 - The Illusion of Happening and Unfolding in Here

02:05:44 - The Benefits of the Conversation

02:09:02 - Conclusion and Upcoming Interview with Gangaji

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Unmani shares a strikingly direct account of growing up without a clear sense of personal identity, traveling widely, and eventually discovering that what she had been searching for was already here. In this conversation, she and Rick explore the frustration of searching for truth, the illusion of trying to retain awakening as an experience, and the subtle ways thought creates a sense of self that may not actually be found anywhere. She also speaks about meeting the German Zen master Dolano, the shift from seeking to recognition, and why her gatherings eventually moved from traditional satsang format into intimate dialogues.

The discussion also touches on the relationship between consciousness and the body, the nature of thought, the role of practice, the fear of intimacy, and why real spiritual inquiry often means giving up beliefs rather than collecting better ones. Unmani’s perspective is practical, uncompromising, and often disarming: life does its own work, there is no escape from reality, and the invitation is to face whatever is here without trying to turn it into a special state.

Unmani is the author of I am Life itself and Die to Love, and she continues to hold meetings and retreats internationally and online.

Interview recorded 10/11/2011

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Chapters:

00:00:00 - Introduction and Background

00:03:44 - Spontaneous Preferences and Self-Discovery in Teenage Years

00:06:54 - From Therapist to Traveling Abroad

00:10:09 - Discovering Spirituality in India

00:13:28 - The Frustration and Madness of the Search

00:16:28 - Ready to Die and Joining Dolano's Group

00:19:57 - A Drive for the Truth

00:23:21 - Integration and Knowing

00:26:15 - Exploring the Male/Female Dynamic

00:29:50 - Humility and Confidence

00:33:10 - Seeing Thought for What It Is

00:36:28 - The Potential Benefits of Practices

00:40:23 - Moments of Recognition

00:43:18 - The Illusion of Retaining Thoughts

00:46:27 - The Physiological Basis of Consciousness

00:49:30 - Meetings in Not Knowing

00:53:05 - Changing the Format and Focusing on Dialogues

00:55:55 - Breaking Free from Beliefs

00:58:54 - Recognizing Who You Are

01:01:43 - Recognition and Growth in Life

01:04:31 - The Integration of the Child into the Woman

01:07:04 - The Meaning of Love

01:10:06 - Emptiness and Fullness

01:12:51 - The Fear of Intimacy

01:16:05- The Nature of Reality and Misinterpretation

01:18:50 - Recognition and Attitude

01:21:58 - The Spontaneity of Speech and Intimacy in Retreats

01:24:38 - Returning to Regular Life After a Retreat

01:27:20 - The Process of Seeing Through Old Patterns

01:29:55 - No Escape from Reality

01:33:11 - Discussion Group and Conclusion