Highlights from their conversation include:

• Introducing Marc and Ian and the New Book (0:41)
• Defining Modern Industrial Policy (4:33)
• Industry-Based Economic View (5:35)
• Importance of Industry Selection (7:23)
• Global Perspectives on Industrial Policy (11:25)
• Three Pillars of Industrial Policy (17:26)
• List of Industrial Policy Tools (19:16)
• Granularity of Industrial Policy (25:27)
• Role of Tariffs in Industrial Policy (26:49)
• Workforce Development and Automation (29:00)
• Future of U.S. Industrial Policy (30:58)
• Challenges of Policy Silos (31:36)
• Hope for Unified Discipline in Industrial Policy (32:24)

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